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Offline ponche

Calkins Trailer Help
« on: March 05, 2015, 08:22:39 PM »
Hello again everyone
I have yet another problem with my set-up only this time it's a trailer problem.  I have an apx 23' 1987 Calkins roller trailer and it doesn't fit the boat (19' SR) correctly. It had two pairs or rollers that extended back onto the after-planes and the boat only sat on one roller and then on the roller axel (which caused damage to the gel coat, another post) between them. When I removed the two offending pairs of roller brackets, the boat settled onto the fenders!

I found that Carnai, in Spokane, bought Calkins, so I called them and was very rudely informed that they do not make bracketry for this model boat trailer any longer and had no idea where to send me. I've been looking around for parts (Overton's seem to have the best stock of parts) but I'm not really sure what I'm doing. The last thing I want to do is have my repair fail doing 60 down the interstate. Are there any trailer repair specialists that monitor this, or could someone refer me to one? Obviously I can't haul the boat very far with it sitting on the fenders, so a traveling repair tech would be ideal!

Thanks ya'll
1999 19' Sea Ranger
Suzuki 140hp
Yamaha 8hp

Offline Hydro-Therapy

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2015, 06:04:27 AM »

 Ponche I don't have any resources for your area but may be able to help get the boat off the fenders first. You may want to put the rollers back on that you took off and try moving the boat back so that the offending rollers are a couple of inches in front of the transom. Then move the winch stand back to accommodate. By doing this you should have the boat sitting back on the rollers again. It may also make the tongue weight light, but it will make it so you can safely travel to someone that can do a proper adjustment to your trailer.

 I had a very similar trailer under my 19SR when I got it , but found it to be to light weight .  After a couple of repairs and some gel coat damage I replaced it with tandem axle and have been very happy I did.

  H-T   
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Offline Hydroman

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2015, 06:32:37 AM »
You might want to try E Trailer, they have a good selection of roller bunks.
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Offline Chief of the Boat

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2015, 07:46:47 AM »
I cringe when I see a 25 year old trailer come in for repair.  What is the overall condition of the trailer, rust, does it have brakes, is it one of the green painted Calkins or is it galvanized? 
I have never heard of a mobile boat trailer mechanic but if there is one I am sure the tool kit would include breaker bar with PB Blaster and lots of Band-Aids for busted knuckles.  :twocents: 
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Offline BayWolf

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 08:34:33 AM »
If possible, I would recommend mooring the boat and taking the trailer in. If you could find a "mobile" trailer mechanic, he's not going to come cheap.  Repairs may cost more that a good used trailer.   :twocents:
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Offline ponche

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2015, 08:02:31 PM »
H-T, great idea about moving the winch stand back; unfortunately its all the way back.
CoB, it is a galvanized single axle, no brakes. I've added several parts to it
(Wheels & tires, winch, jack, fulton folding adaptor for neck, new
Lights, etc) so its not far from being in pretty good shape. I think its to narrow
For a bunk rail system, but maybe roller bunks would work. 

If nothing else, it'll make a good trade-in!
Thanks all, once again!
1999 19' Sea Ranger
Suzuki 140hp
Yamaha 8hp

Offline Hydro-Therapy

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2015, 06:53:00 AM »

  Ponche ok since the winch stand will not go back ,  Can you adjust the bracket that holds the rollers forward to get them under the hull ??  with out a picture of what you have , this may entail moving the rear crossmember forward. A couple of pictures would sure help on getting you back on the road.

  H-T
Fish forever Work whenever !!!!!
"89" 19SR Keith 115 Merc. 15 4s kicker W/trollmaster Raymarine A70D

Offline ponche

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2015, 09:59:32 AM »
These pictures may help. Looking forward, you can see the types of roller pairs that ride on the hull (picture with 3 roller pairs) on either side of the keel rollers. The other picture is looking aft. You can see how the one bracket has been removed and stuck in place for the picture (inboard of where it was actually mounted). That roller-pair bracket only had one roller on the bottom and the other was riding on nothing as it was sticking inboard near the engine; the hull was sitting on the axel shaft of the roller-pair, causing a little rub damage.

The boat was sitting low when I got it, then settled onto the fenders after removal of the  aft rollers. The temp, simple, fix was to remove the fenders! Now at least I can get the boat into the water when it's ready so trailer repairs can commence.  Truth is, the trailer isn't in bad shape and for the price of trailers, I can sink a few hundred more into it and be o.k. (me thinks@). I'm just not sure which direction to take...

Any and all ideas/input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks ya'll
1999 19' Sea Ranger
Suzuki 140hp
Yamaha 8hp

Offline Hydroman

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2015, 10:17:25 AM »
Is it possible to remove the rear roller/bracket by jacking the stern of the boat?  Once you remove the roller/bracket you could shorten the bracket which would move the roller forward.
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Offline Threeweight

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2015, 10:43:31 AM »
For parts, I have had good luck with both Etrailer.com and easternmarine.com.

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Offline Hydro-Therapy

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2015, 01:09:43 PM »

  Am I seeing that the crossmember that is holding the bracket in the rear is U-bolted in place. If so you could move it forward to get it under the boat. Also see that some of the rollers are riding on chines and need to be move in or out to get them on a flat surface.

 If you want to do the adjustments in your driveway rather than launching the boat, there is a simple and safe method of raising the boat off the trailer. By lowering your tongue jack all the way down,then stacking large wood blocks under the sponsons as close as you can get it.(after planes as you called them,where you have the gelcoat damage).  Then raise the jack to where the trailer is level. At this point the rear of the boat will be off of the trailer. Then use a floor jack with a block on top under the bow area on the keel to raise it the rest of the way off of the trailer.If you are concerned about the jack bleeding off and lowering , you can put a jack stand with a block  under the keel next to the Jack.  This should have the boat off the rollers so you can adjust and repair what is needed.

 H-T
Fish forever Work whenever !!!!!
"89" 19SR Keith 115 Merc. 15 4s kicker W/trollmaster Raymarine A70D

Offline ponche

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2015, 02:15:30 PM »
Good advice about the chines H-T; you are correct, some rollers are riding on them. Didn't know that would be a problem.

As for the crossmember being U-Bolted on, no it's not. The U-bolt you see is for the spring bracket. The crossmember is bolted to the frame with angle brackets. That doesn't mean I couldn't reposition it forward and drill more holes through the frame though.

Great idea with the blocks; I may definately give that a try.

Do you think converting it to bunks would raise the boat up higher for better fender clearance?

Thanks again
1999 19' Sea Ranger
Suzuki 140hp
Yamaha 8hp

Online Peddler

Re: Calkins Trailer Help
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2015, 07:13:47 PM »
How about a wider shot, showing the boat and trailer fully?

I'm thinking you could move your winch stand back far-enough that the rear rollers would be under the boat.  If this reduces tongue weight too much, you could shift the axle back a bit as well.

Personally, I prefer a bunk trailer vs rollers, and have made this conversion on my own EZLoader trailer.  You're going to spend a couple hundo to do it, but adjusting the current trailer to fit the boat correctly is an investment only in time.
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