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Offline Threeweight

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2014, 12:23:05 PM »
Why stop there... Suzuki DF200A and Yamaha F200 are only 10# more (487)  :whistle:

You could buy a nice kicker, or a nice electronics set up and safety gear, for the price difference between a 115 and a 150.  :twocents:
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Offline BigMac

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2014, 01:32:00 PM »
SF--

Haven't seen you for a while.  You look different!

Need to rename the boat "SF Fat Guy".

(Dave)

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Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2014, 02:41:19 PM »
My Yamaha 115 is not 478lbs. The weight will be different with the year of make.

I really think what most of us that have the 115 to 150 motors are saying is you can accomplish a hole shot with trim tabs. It's not about the more HP. We all know our boats are not speed boats. This also might be from where you are located. We do not have many bass boats with 200 hp motors skipping the sound.

I think we all know the Hondas are fat motors, I will add they are nice motors though.


SFF
« Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 02:55:53 PM by Seattleflyfisher »

Offline GoodDays

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 02:52:12 PM »
Russ,  put on a shirt Brother !!

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Offline amazing grace

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2014, 03:44:45 PM »
Since my last post and the direction this thread has taken on. I would just add that I do think the 115hp is a great motor on my 19SR.  But the newer lighter 135hp's and up seem awfully promising.  :wink:
1989 22' C-Dory Angler

Offline Caston

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2014, 03:50:59 PM »
Why stop there... Suzuki DF200A and Yamaha F200 are only 10# more (487)  :whistle:

You could buy a nice kicker, or a nice electronics set up and safety gear, for the price difference between a 115 and a 150.  :twocents:

It just seemed odd than everyone was focused on the weight of the Honda 150 on this boat when its weight matched that of the motor deemed appropriate. If you were to stick with Honda anyway.
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Offline Salmon King

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Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2014, 08:22:06 PM »
Caston...

Are you in Minnesota????

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Offline strokersquid

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2014, 10:02:56 PM »
150 HP on a 19 ! that's more than i need on a HT SR 21 fully loaded with crabbing gear, 3 not so light crew, and BEER out in the mean Pacific. Why so much on a little 19 ? Just get some Viagra, you don't need an implant !

Offline Caston

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2014, 08:35:22 AM »
Caston...

Are you in Minnesota????

"Location: the land of sky blue water"

No, I just have a thing for old beer jingles!

And nobody pick on me here but I have been known to enjoy a Hamm's every once in a while. Hamm's, the beer refreshing!  :beerchug:
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Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2014, 12:49:31 PM »
"...the beer refreshing."  Refreshing what???   :shrug9:   :wink:

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Offline Caston

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2014, 08:37:50 PM »
So this is kinda funny. I'm down in Pacific City tonight and opened up the beer fridge to see what it had to offer. With all of the choices available it seemed appropriat to sit down with my first Hamm's in probably two years.  :clap:
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Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2014, 08:53:40 PM »
Heck!
If I could find Hamm's at the base exchange licour store I'd be buying it!
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Offline Big Al

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2014, 12:11:51 PM »
I have a  Susuki 140 Hp on My 19 "SC.  It's good power and good fuel economy. When running over the bar and in strong Ocean current its  reassuring. Thew motor does sit low in the water however, and that concerns me. The head is barely out of the water.
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Offline Lingripper

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2014, 08:02:59 PM »
Big Al I got the 140 ex and it sits real high in the water with the jack plate. It was not my first choice but picked up the motor with 230 hrs on it at a great price. Now I am glade I got it and would do it again the same way ordering a ex and installing a jack plate. This is just my opinion but if any of you get a great deal on  a closeout EX of any motor consider the 300$ jack plate moving the motor back 6" and raising the head out of the water a GOOD distance keeping any salt from entering even in following sea. I also plane very fast with the motor back farther.
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2014, 08:18:43 PM »
...and it would solve the problem of the kicker being too far back on the sponson for an EZ steer to work nicely!

IMHO, the lightest outboard (regardless of brand) that will carry the weight you have at the speed you wish to travel at the price you want to pay is the right one.

I know I'd like to lose a hundred pounds off the 2014 Yammie 150's nearly 500 lbs!
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline amazing grace

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2014, 08:42:02 PM »
Wow Mark, did not realize that the Yamaha 150 weighed that much. It would be interesting to see what all the 2014's weigh in at in 90, 115 and the 130.140 and 150's.
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2014, 08:51:56 PM »
If I knew in March what I know now...

The Suzuki 140 is 396 pounds!!!  Same as my 2012 Yammie 115!
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Threeweight

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2014, 10:12:57 PM »
Google machine turned up this list..  Suzi 140A's are pretty compelling for Arima's (21's, or if you want the extra power, 19's).  396 pounds, vs:

Etec 130 = 405 pounds, 150 = 418#
Honda 135 and 150 = 478#
Yamaha 150 = 480#
Merc's new 150 = 455#, Optimax 150 = 431#

Fuel economy is likely the best of the bunch to.  The Suzuki 150 uses a bigger block and is heavier (475#).

My main skepticisms of trying to max out horsepower on Arima's is the weight's effect on balance and handling in our already stern-heavy boats, the extra expense to purchase and run them, and the ability to actually use the power in typical conditions.  I was in some pretty gnarly water Saturday, where planing was out of the question.  In really gnarly water you don't want the powerhead of the motor sitting so low it is at risk of being flooded by a following sea  :twocents:
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 10:16:25 PM by Threeweight »
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2014, 10:34:38 PM »
Pulling weight out of the stern, including batteries is always a good idea in any boat.  Ideally, weight will be in the center of the boat and as low as possible.  With an outboard you have the weight off the rear mounted motor and with the big fuel tank in an Arima you have doubled that problem.  Lightening the load is always a good idea.  It may be better to give up horsepower to gain buoyancy than to power up with more weight!
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Chasin Baitman

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2014, 11:49:25 PM »
Doesn't penquin run an offshore commercial fishing operation on a 21' with a honda 130?
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Offline Jon Lawrence

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2014, 06:31:18 PM »
Honda 150 is not different than putting a 115 on the back. Needed? Not in my opinion.

As far has HP, I just put a Yami 200HP inline 4 on a 21' Sea Ranger HT, hehehehe. That's a fun boat. The COB was the lucky one and got to run the thing. Something like 24mph at 2800rpms.

Considering that this in line 4 is burning fuel similarly to a 150 aside from the substantial gain in HP, when we max power on the same size power head our fuel efficient hulls turn into even more fuel efficient rocket ships.

Offline GregE

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2014, 06:51:51 PM »
Bet Terry is still grinning.   :biggrin:

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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2014, 08:11:04 PM »
I seriously considered the 200 instead of the 150 because the weight was the same and cost was not significantly different.  Wondered if the higher tech 200's variable valve timing would help fuel economy?
Ended up with the 150 because it is such a proven workhorse and insurance is lower.  Turns out, the 150 goes as fast as I want to pay for  :biggrin:
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline strokersquid

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2014, 09:08:30 PM »
The new '19 Sea Chaser sold today.   J W
I'll be waiting and armed  at the border to make sure it it does not get out of state ! :biggrin:

Offline strokersquid

Re: Arima 19 Sea Chaser
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2014, 09:13:27 PM »
Honda 150 is not different than putting a 115 on the back. Needed? Not in my opinion.

As far has HP, I just put a Yami 200HP inline 4 on a 21' Sea Ranger HT, hehehehe. That's a fun boat. The COB was the lucky one and got to run the thing. Something like 24mph at 2800rpms.

Considering that this in line 4 is burning fuel similarly to a 150 aside from the substantial gain in HP, when we max power on the same size power head our fuel efficient hulls turn into even more fuel efficient rocket ships.
thought the max HP was 150 on this boat ?