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Offline DSledgeR

LED bulb replacement for bow light
« on: June 14, 2014, 06:12:33 PM »
Hey folks, I have the standard Aqua Signal bow light, and was wondering what size LED bulb replaces the one in it.  I see a bunch on line, but the original bulb only has " *12V 5WA/S1 "  stamped on it.  Try as I might, I can't even find that one to do a cross reference to get an LED match.

Any ideas?
« Last Edit: June 15, 2014, 05:16:56 AM by DSledgeR »

Offline Chuck Jones

Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 07:53:26 AM »
You have to look for the snew reference.
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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2014, 06:00:28 PM »
Any on this page look similar?

http://www.doctorled.com/crossref.htm

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2014, 06:41:44 PM »
It's not as easy as just replacing the existing with an LED. The replacement must be certified and approved for navigation light use and ensure that the red/green is visible for a minimum of 1 NM. Most LED's are fairly 'directional' in their light output and are not suitable for navigation lighting. If the fixture was designed with the reflector to show properly with an incandescent vs LED... It'd be a No-Go.

Is this what your nav light and the bulb looks like?





Changing out cuddy, cabin, & deck/spreader lighting to LED is a no-brainer... Doing it to your required safety lighting... :shrug9:


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Offline DSledgeR

Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2014, 11:08:54 AM »
FishorCrab.....thanks, I'll look there.

Rick, agree, and should have said I'm looking for the recommended one for that particular fixture, which looks exactly like the one you posted.  I'll look at the housing again to see if it has a series number on it to reference the link FishorCrab posted.

The existing one works, but the light output is pretty lame if you ask me........might just get a better fixture altogether if the LED bulb doesn't work.

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2014, 11:31:28 AM »
That bulb is a BA9 series.



Yes, there are replacement LED's for it, usually not approved for nav light use unless the fixture is certified as LED 'friendly' as well. The easy fix if your existing fixture is 'suspect' (ie: showing sign of corrosion etc) is to replace the complete unit with an LED one. If, as you say, the bulb 'appears' to not be very bright, are you sure the existing bulb hadn't been replaced at some point in the past with the same type, but a lower wattage rating? Also, check your voltage at the bulb socket and also the wiring at the helm switch... If it's anything like the 'old' stuff I've seen, it's TOAST!!! A new DP/DT switch & terminal connectors can solve a lot of issues.

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Offline DSledgeR

Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2014, 11:11:53 AM »
Found it......POLAR STAR 20 LED........it's a marine grade, USCG approved replacement for the Aqua Signal series 20 fixtures.  2nm visibility versus the 1nm advertised incandescent one.

Problem solved.

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LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2014, 11:33:16 AM »
Call me crazy, but $24.95 for an LED vs $8.80 for a 2 pack of incandescent?





I don't know how often you're running your nav lights, but at that cost difference :shrug9:

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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2014, 12:05:33 PM »

I try to minimize drain on the battery while anchored overnight.

I can't count the number of LED's I have purchased ths year.  I replaced all in the boat, trailer, camping trailer, motion security lights at home, most of my home interior lights have been replaced (still working on it)

To replace the 12v. Bulbs, I found a brand called "Green Longlife" "warm white".  Which looks very much like an incandescent. Amazon sells them. EBAY also has them.  I buy 250-350 lumen.
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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2014, 12:29:48 PM »
Croaker, I agree completely about the theory of battery drain and the use of LED's. I've also changed over every light in the house here to LED's and the power bill dropped to 1/2 over the previous month (all during the darker winter times) My payback (with buying the bulbs at my wholesale cost) will be approx one year.
The original question on this post was for the bow light, only used while running, NEVER when at anchor. My all-round/anchor light, all of my cabin, cuddy, storage areas, bilge and deck/spreader lights are LED. My bow light isn't... I may decide to change it out to LED at the time the original bulb burns out.  $0.02

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2014, 02:12:13 PM »
Call me crazy,


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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2014, 02:15:00 PM »
You always get the good ones Alan   :nono:  That's probably a one time deal too......   :wink:

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2014, 11:08:25 PM »

Call me crazy,


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You're crazy  -    :rimshot:

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Offline DSledgeR

Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2014, 12:31:14 PM »
Rick,

You might be right, but it is a relative PITA to change, and reseal, so life of the bulb is a variable too.  Also, it is much brighter, and in the morning fog might help. 

Will likely change out the anchor bulb too, but at a later time, before going on a trip where I anchor somewhere.

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2014, 12:54:03 PM »
Rick,

You might be right, but it is a relative PITA to change, and reseal, so life of the bulb is a variable too.  Also, it is much brighter, and in the morning fog might help. 

Will likely change out the anchor bulb too, but at a later time, before going on a trip where I anchor somewhere.

I never said to not change it out... for me, the $$$ didn't justify it. All I did was just some quick searching to find the correct bulb for you to use on that fixture and to still maintain the proper approvals... Some aren't aware that there are regulations to comply with. The worst time to realize that is when your insurance investigator asks all the 'hard questions' after the fact.  :twocents:

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ps: IMHO, I'd change out the anchor light/all round at the same time (or even instead of my bow light) That's the light that gets attention before the red/green. (and its on every time the running lights are on, or, SHOULD be on at the same time) When I helped Al Adams re-wire his boat, we found the original nav light DP/DT switch wired incorrectly, from the factory ( :bigshock: ???)
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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2014, 02:05:05 PM »
Just a note of interest (to me anyway) - I was working on my new hydraulic steering last night and turned on the lights (nav and anchor) and THEY BOTH CAME ON!  Even after sitting idle for what, a month or more?  I believe that is a first!  I'm not all that concerned with the type of bulb as long as they work.  LED's are probably a little more reliable, I'm guessing. 
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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2014, 02:46:51 PM »

Just a note of interest (to me anyway) - I was working on my new hydraulic steering last night and turned on the lights (nav and anchor) and THEY BOTH CAME ON!  Even after sitting idle for what, a month or more?  I believe that is a first!  I'm not all that concerned with the type of bulb as long as they work.  LED's are probably a little more reliable, I'm guessing.

WHAT, they still work??? Wow, that's been a whole month Al... there's still hope for your completed projects.

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Offline GoodDays

Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2014, 06:51:41 AM »
I need a Nav light fixture like that one (I kicked mine climbing in off the trailer)

I glued mine back together but it's Fugly !
A black one would be really usefull if anyone has one gathering dust in a parts box ?

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2014, 07:19:23 AM »


 PM Streamfixer he was trying give one away a couple of weeks ago.

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2014, 08:23:10 AM »
I have a spare Stern/anchor light on the tall mount (bayonet connection) needing a new home not the red/green bow light..

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Offline Nordski

Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2014, 04:07:35 PM »
Hi all.  I am new to this group and just bought my second Arima. This one is a new to me Sea Explorer.  It's a 1995 with aqua signal series 20 anchor light.  There was no bulb when I got it and as is well documented the original ain't available.  I researched and found an LED replacement.

Here's my problem: the polarity of the fixture is backwards as far as the new LED is concerned. However when I transpose the wires feeding the fixture I blow the fuse.

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2014, 04:10:22 PM »
Oops hit the wrong button.

That last sentence should finish...

Methow and my brain can't comprehend why reversing the wires blows the fuse.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2014, 05:16:33 PM »
Offhand, I'd think you found another path from positive to negative.  Where are you swapping the wires?  In the socket fixture or in the light fixture?  Check for a path to common from the various parts of the fixture. And be happy there is a fuse present.

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2014, 06:24:04 PM »

Hi all.  I am new to this group and just bought my second Arima. This one is a new to me Sea Explorer.  It's a 1995 with aqua signal series 20 anchor light.  There was no bulb when I got it and as is well documented the original ain't available.  I researched and found an LED replacement.

Here's my problem: the polarity of the fixture is backwards as far as the new LED is concerned. However when I transpose the wires feeding the fixture I blow the fuse.

I am sweltering here at my place in the Methow I my brain

You might wanna read thru this:

http://arimaowners.com/index.php?topic=7054

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Re: LED bulb replacement for bow light
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2014, 06:34:55 PM »
Already did.  Doesn't answer my question. Thanx.