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Offline jorcutt

Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« on: December 26, 2013, 05:33:16 PM »
I installed the Scotty Line Puller #2500 on my Arima and I have used it several times. I have had good success with it. It works well with my crab pots to 200' deep. I have mounted it on my cannon low profile swivel base with a custom adapter plate I made myself. Besides the Scotty Line puller the adapter plate will work with any Scotty downrigger that uses the Scotty bracket #1023.

Offline BruceL2_Fish

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2013, 05:51:04 PM »
That is good to hear, I got one for Christmas.  Looking forward to trying it.   

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Offline First Cabin

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2013, 09:22:37 PM »
I've looked at that designed and wondered if the boom is long enough.

Doesn't the pot bang into the bottom and side of the boat?  I imagine you have to stop below the boat, pull it off the pulley, then swing it away from the boat while lifting out of the water?

I suppose you get used to it and it probably works at least as well as the Ace Line Hauler I use.

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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2013, 09:56:39 PM »
ej,
does the ace clear the boat with a standard square pot?
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Offline First Cabin

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2013, 10:15:34 PM »
ej,
does the ace clear the boat with a standard square pot?

NO!!!!

Probably the only beef I have with the Ace Line Hauler.  Having pulled many pots now, I really want a true crab pot davit.

With the Ace Line Hauler you really have to be careful not to scratch the heck out of the boat with the pots banging against the side.  I assume the same problem exists with the Scotty puller....right?
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Offline jorcutt

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2013, 10:40:05 PM »
We were able to bring the Danielsons crab pots all the way out of the water without hitting the side of the boat. You do have to manual swing it up and over the gunnel, but it was not really a problem to do that. We have not scratched the side or top of the boat yet. It is a concern and I may lay something over the side and top in the future.

Offline Tom Mac

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 07:57:35 AM »
I have the Ace puller it lifts my traps, crab and prawn fully out of the water, and on my swiveling down rigger mounts I can swing the trap into the boat. The traps rarely hit the boat.
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Offline Old Chaser

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2014, 09:56:49 AM »
I'm wondering if you can use this puller for the shrimp pot, they are kind a heavy and you will need to pull 4pots 3times a day. The pots will be 200-300ft deep. Has anybody tried this and if so what was the results?

Offline theSaltyPuddle

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2014, 01:05:00 PM »
It is meant to be a prawn trap puller.  Scotty builds good, tough stuff.
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Offline Vancouvertechie

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2014, 03:05:20 PM »
I would like to invest in one and give shrimpin a try.  Make some shrimp stew, shrimp sandwiches, shrimp salad...

I guess I am fine with either one if the price is right.

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Offline Threeweight

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2014, 04:51:40 PM »
I would like to invest in one and give shrimpin a try.  Make some shrimp stew, shrimp sandwiches, shrimp salad...VT


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Has anyone tried one of the motorized crab davits the guy in Canby sells for pulling their shrimp pots?  I have a manual davit that works well in my boat for pulling crab pots in 20-50' of water, but a 300' pull of a shrimp pot would be another story...
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2014, 06:40:27 PM »
I'm curious about the different reports of EJ and TomMac- maybe different davits, or something?  If I get a puller, I'd like it to be able to get the pot up to clear the gunnel, lifting a fully loaded pot out of the water and up into the boat is the hard part.
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Offline Chief of the Boat

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2014, 07:39:12 PM »
I have a Brutus on a Scotty swivel base and if everything is perfect, the waves, turning the inconveniently located toggle switch off when the coupler hits the pulley it will barely clear the boat.  I was at Sportco on Sunday and took a hard look at the Scotty puller,  I like the compact design, convenient power switch location and operation.  If I switch to the Scotty I will start working out more to lift the pots into the boat.
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Offline Tom Mac

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2014, 09:16:07 PM »
Markshoreline, I have my Ace puller mounted on my swivel base mount for my scotty down rigger, it lifts it up 2 or 3 more inches off the gunnel. I keep the bridles short and all my traps including crab traps have chaffing guards on all the edges so if they make contact with the boat there is minimal scrapes (none). I would guess 100 or more pulls a year on mine for the lass two years, could even be my favorite upgrade. I was doing the same thing by hand with the Scotty rod holder mounted davit before, I will never go back. The Scotty pullers are nice too but you have to reach over the side and lift the traps in the boat, they are short and low. 
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2014, 09:39:37 PM »
Tom,
That is what it seems to me, just looking at them. 

It would be an interesting post for you to show pics of your swivel base, shortened bridles and the chaffing guards.  We could all benefit from that!

I still use the Scotty manual davit- I don't mind the pulling, but if the pot's full sometimes it takes two to clear the gunwhale!

Mark
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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2014, 09:13:46 AM »
I adjusted the bridles on my Donalson shrimp pots so that the pots come up sideways instead of flat. There's a lot less resistance in the water when retrieving, and - because it's sideways - it's not as unruly when it gets to the boat.

I'll try to snap a picture when I get home tonight.
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2014, 11:00:45 AM »
Humm, never thought of that one- makes sense, though.  Seems they could end up upside down when dropping to the bottom, however.
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Offline Tom Mac

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2014, 09:03:38 PM »
Tom,
That is what it seems to me, just looking at them. 

It would be an interesting post for you to show pics of your swivel base, shortened bridles and the chaffing guards.  We could all benefit from that!

I still use the Scotty manual davit- I don't mind the pulling, but if the pot's full sometimes it takes two to clear the gunwhale!

Mark

Mark, I will this week end my little girl has me booked up all week with her figure skating. I think Ak may have his traps similar to mine 2 legged bridles.


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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2014, 03:40:19 PM »
Well... it took a couple of days (it's still dark out when I get home from work these days), but I finally got a couple of pictures of my shrimp pot bridle setup.

They're rigged such that there's a section of solid netting (no tunnel, no escape door) on the lowest part of the pot as it's being raised. And, based on the way they hang in the air, they should still land bottom side down. But even if they don't, I haven't noticed any difference in production since switching to this setup.



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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2014, 03:59:58 PM »
AK
Thanks for going to what was obviously a LOT of trouble.

That's very interesting- never seen one like that! With the bottom ring larger than the top I see that it's not likely to land upside doen. 
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Offline GoodDays

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2014, 05:10:04 PM »
Mark, that sort of cone shape is normal in BC. Makes them nest inside each other nicely on deck and for storage

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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2014, 05:13:45 PM »
Wern't that much trouble. Just had to wait for some daylight so you could see anything in the pics.  :biggrin:

And, I previously said they were Donalson pots, but they're actually 30" stackable Ladner traps. Donalson is the name of the store up here that sells 'em. :doh:
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Offline GregE

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2014, 10:25:02 PM »
http://www.ladnertraps.com/spcrab.htm

That folding guy would  be handy for taking on cruise trips and Nootka.  Any experience  on durability?
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2014, 10:31:43 PM »
Ak
The Ladner folder doesn't look like your two ring model...?
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Offline GregE

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2014, 10:34:15 PM »
AK's are different- 2 solid rings.  Looks like they have two tunnels on the web site
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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2014, 11:38:49 PM »
Sorry about the confusion. My shrimp pots are the round rigid nesting style, not the folding style. I guess both could be described as 'stackable'.
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2014, 10:05:07 PM »
AK
I like yours, too.  Any more info on mfgr?
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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2014, 01:14:17 PM »
I have been toying around with shrimping for some time now and decided this was the year to give it a try.   So my plan was to do it by hand or manually, but after speaking with Chuck from DiscoveryBay Marine I decided to try to build one. 

I didn't want to drill anymore holes in the boat so I went with the EZ Puller.  http://ezpull.net/shop/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=3EGS

Then I decided to weld a platform for the motor.  After searching the web I decided on the ATV winch from HF.  With the coupon it was about 40.00. 

I found a nice stainless steel snatch block at Fisherman's Marine for 45.00.  It was a huge difference from what I was going to use. 

It's pretty loud, but it is hard to tell since I am my garage.  I am happy with the results and can't wait to test it out at PA.

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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2014, 08:39:10 PM »
John, great job on your project. It doesn't sound that loud!



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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2014, 09:45:51 PM »

 VT great job on the puller . The only thing you may want to play with it a bit to be sure that with speed of the motor ,that you have enough diameter on the drive pulley. Just saying it will definitely work,but may take forever to get your pots reeled in.


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Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2014, 09:27:25 AM »
ATV winch should have lots of torque.  Just install a larger diameter shiv on the shaft that you have should solve the speed problem if it becomes one.  If you need to improve the efficiency of the motor (if it seems to be dragging) simply install a second open shiv lower on the davit to improve the lift ratio.

Very nice work    :bowdown:

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Offline Vancouvertechie

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2014, 09:44:24 AM »
Thanks guys!

I have something like this on order.  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ICZ0Z8/ref=dra_a_rv_ss_ho_it_P3024_100?tag=dradisplay-20

Should be here soon.  Also I will mount a spool down below to mirror the Ace Line Hauler setup.

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Offline Tom Mac

Re: Scotty Line Puller 2500; crab pot puller
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2014, 10:23:33 AM »
Thanks guys!

I have something like this on order.  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ICZ0Z8/ref=dra_a_rv_ss_ho_it_P3024_100?tag=dradisplay-20

Should be here soon.  Also I will mount a spool down below to mirror the Ace Line Hauler setup.

VT

Now it makes sense, your winch motor looks to spin about the same speed as the Ace and I think you will have more power. If you need any measurements or photos of a Ace unit let me know.
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