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Anyone install a windlass without a anchor locker?

Started by AJFishin, August 19, 2019, 06:12:26 PM

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AJFishin

A couple months ago I bought a claw anchor and I really like it, but not enjoying pulling my anchor and chain up from 100 to 180 feet of water a few times a day. I started thinking of a windlass or anchor winch, but I don't have a anchor locker, so I was wondering if anyone has attempted to or knew someone that put one on their Arima?
This might be a lost cause, but what are your thoughts?
'96 Sea Ranger 19, 2016 Mercury 115 EFI CT (115F231D) 
'96 Sea Chaser 16, 2019 Suzuki DF60AV (Sold) 
'87 Sea Chaser 17, 1987 Johnson V4 90 (Sold)
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Fisherdv

Look up some videos on the anchor bouy and ring retrieval method. The buoy brings the anchor to the surface as you pull forward and then all you need to do is just pull the rope in while the anchor is held up in place by the buoy much easier than pulling up all the weight of the anchor on its own
2018 Sea Chaser 16, Honda BFP60

AJFishin

Quote from: Fisherdv on August 19, 2019, 06:52:29 PM
Look up some videos on the anchor bouy and ring retrieval method. The buoy brings the anchor to the surface as you pull forward and then all you need to do is just pull the rope in while the anchor is held up in place by the buoy much easier than pulling up all the weight of the anchor on its own

Did not know that, thanks Fisher
'96 Sea Ranger 19, 2016 Mercury 115 EFI CT (115F231D) 
'96 Sea Chaser 16, 2019 Suzuki DF60AV (Sold) 
'87 Sea Chaser 17, 1987 Johnson V4 90 (Sold)
My YouTube channel: youtube.com/socalseachaser

croaker stroker

#3
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. Anchor buoy.


You don't see them used much in SoCal. 🤷🏼‍♂️



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1985 - 15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"Ex Tridente Pax". 🇺🇸

Fisherdv

With that system CS pictured, you have to be sure that your length of chain out weighs the anchor. If not, the anchor will fall back to the bottom. Ask me how I know this  :facepalm:
2018 Sea Chaser 16, Honda BFP60

AJFishin

I'll weigh my chain tomorrow, but I'm thinking my chain should outweigh my 11lb anchor.
If so, I was looking at getting this one?
11" ball.
'96 Sea Ranger 19, 2016 Mercury 115 EFI CT (115F231D) 
'96 Sea Chaser 16, 2019 Suzuki DF60AV (Sold) 
'87 Sea Chaser 17, 1987 Johnson V4 90 (Sold)
My YouTube channel: youtube.com/socalseachaser

Salmon Hobo


croaker stroker

Quote from: AJFishin on August 19, 2019, 10:22:11 PM
I'll weigh my chain tomorrow, but I'm thinking my chain should outweigh my 11lb anchor.
If so, I was looking at getting this one?
11" ball.


Mine is bigger than that. ??  Maybe 18" ?

I pull it up with the forward starboard side cleat. That way, I can see the rode. Don't want to run over it.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
1985 - 15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"Ex Tridente Pax". 🇺🇸

Fisherdv

Quote from: AJFishin on August 19, 2019, 10:22:11 PM
I'll weigh my chain tomorrow, but I'm thinking my chain should outweigh my 11lb anchor.
If so, I was looking at getting this one?
11" ball.

I think that's the same size that I have. Should be perfect for your 11# anchor. I didn't want a buoy any bigger because it takes up too much storage space. If that's a Poly form buoy you may need the fill adapter also.

https://www.amazon.com/Polyform-Infl-Adap-Inflation-Adapter/dp/B002NSU05C/ref=asc_df_B002NSU05C/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309830947124&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17492736339669482803&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031980&hvtargid=pla-455874785905&psc=1
2018 Sea Chaser 16, Honda BFP60

Svinny88

I'm looking into this style myself, I believe with this one, length of anchor chain doesn't matter, it's self locking
Ironwood Pacific AnchorLift Pro Anchor Puller with Buoy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009CEG0L8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_-Q5wDbCZXQBDS
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"T roLL on 1"

croaker stroker

1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
1985 - 15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"Ex Tridente Pax". 🇺🇸

Svinny88

The other type is designed to be able to quick disconnect from your anchor and buoy and come back to it correct?  The ring style is just for a puller only
1998 15'11" sea explorer. 2020 Honda bf100
"T roLL on 1"

Fisherdv

Quote from: Svinny88 on August 20, 2019, 12:02:53 AM
I'm looking into this style myself, I believe with this one, length of anchor chain doesn't matter, it's self locking
Ironwood Pacific AnchorLift Pro Anchor Puller with Buoy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009CEG0L8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_-Q5wDbCZXQBDS
This system is for heavy anchors where the anchor will out weigh the chain.
2018 Sea Chaser 16, Honda BFP60

croaker stroker

#13
Quote from: Svinny88 on August 20, 2019, 03:59:43 AM
The other type is designed to be able to quick disconnect from your anchor and buoy and come back to it correct?  The ring style is just for a puller only

The ones I've seen are not removable from the rode. Once they arrive at the anchor, you have to slide them back after each use.  The ring type is simple and a little easier IMO.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
1985 - 15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"Ex Tridente Pax". 🇺🇸

Danno

2015 19' Sea Chaser (2019 to current)
1998 19' Sea Ranger (2003 to 2008)

Lures are designed to catch fishermen not fish.

Arima_Matt

#15
Here is another removeable one.

http://www.orvalsezpull.com/

This new concept in anchor/crab pot pullers makes lifting and pulling up heavy anchors or loaded crab pots a breeze! It's the patented open side-slot and line-locking mechanism that allows snap-it on and snap-it off control. Saves you time, effort, and money and most importantly is a much safer way to pull in your anchors and crab pots

When anchoring there is no threading and holding a line lock open. Just play out your anchor line then snap Orval's EZ Pull™ and buoy on to the anchor line. Toss buoy and puller in the water. At the end of the day pull your line in, snap Orval's EZ Pull™ off and set it aside for another day.
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dbhazjack

Have any of you used this system to pull crab or shrimp pots? Curious as to how that would work??
2013 17' Sea Chaser, 90 hp Honda, 8 hp Honda Kicker. SOLD

Yachter Yat

   AJ:  Not sure I understand these suggestions.  When you asked about an anchor windlass, I assumed you were talking about something like this??   
  https://www.lewmar.com/node/11627
Yat
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Omega3

I have never pulled pots with mine.You would need some space to do it and better have strong pots because the full weight of the boat is doing the work.I have used the EZ Marine puller for years as well as a ring,the pullers that hold the anchor if you stop are much better than just the ring.The Orvals is what I will buy if my puller ever breaks.
05 Sea Ranger 19  05 Evinrude 135 DI   17 Yamaha F8

Mooch

Quote from: dbhazjack on August 21, 2019, 07:50:01 AM
Have any of you used this system to pull crab or shrimp pots? Curious as to how that would work??

Doesn't make sense with leaded line.  Also pulling a pot from under a buoy just doesn't seem worth it or as safe or easy on my back as a pot puller.  Not to mention, I have enough enemies as it it is without pulling thru and then hauling back 400' line through a gauntlet of pots with current or wind.
Matt. 8:27    The men were amazed and asked, "What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!"

AJFishin

Quote from: Yachter Yat on August 21, 2019, 08:34:43 AM
   AJ:  Not sure I understand these suggestions.  When you asked about an anchor windlass, I assumed you were talking about something like this??   
  https://www.lewmar.com/node/11627
Yat

That was one option I looked at. BUT I'm glad this thread took a slight turn to the suggestion of the anchor buoy system, it was something I didn't know about.
I bought a buoy which should arrive today so I'm looking forward to giving it a try.
'96 Sea Ranger 19, 2016 Mercury 115 EFI CT (115F231D) 
'96 Sea Chaser 16, 2019 Suzuki DF60AV (Sold) 
'87 Sea Chaser 17, 1987 Johnson V4 90 (Sold)
My YouTube channel: youtube.com/socalseachaser

Omega3

If you bought the ring stay on the throttle until you are sure the anchor is all the way up!
05 Sea Ranger 19  05 Evinrude 135 DI   17 Yamaha F8

dbhazjack

Quote from: Omega3 on August 21, 2019, 08:42:24 AM
I have never pulled pots with mine.You would need some space to do it and better have strong pots because the full weight of the boat is doing the work.I have used the EZ Marine puller for years as well as a ring,the pullers that hold the anchor if you stop are much better than just the ring.The Orvals is what I will buy if my puller ever breaks.

I was thinking the same about space. Seems like lots of potential problems.

Quote from: Mooch on August 21, 2019, 08:54:20 AM
Quote from: dbhazjack on August 21, 2019, 07:50:01 AM
Have any of you used this system to pull crab or shrimp pots? Curious as to how that would work??

Doesn't make sense with leaded line.  Also pulling a pot from under a buoy just doesn't seem worth it or as safe or easy on my back as a pot puller.  Not to mention, I have enough enemies as it it is without pulling thru and then hauling back 400' line through a gauntlet of pots with current or wind.

:jester: That would not be appreciated! Not to mention that you would probably empty the pot of anything you had caught. I was just curious if anyone had tried this since they advertise it as an anchor and pot puller.
2013 17' Sea Chaser, 90 hp Honda, 8 hp Honda Kicker. SOLD

Fisherdv

#23
Quote from: AJFishin on August 21, 2019, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: Yachter Yat on August 21, 2019, 08:34:43 AM
   AJ:  Not sure I understand these suggestions.  When you asked about an anchor windlass, I assumed you were talking about something like this??   
  https://www.lewmar.com/node/11627
Yat

That was one option I looked at. BUT I'm glad this thread took a slight turn to the suggestion of the anchor buoy system, it was something I didn't know about.
I bought a buoy which should arrive today so I'm looking forward to giving it a try.
Always keep an eye on where the anchor rope is, and make sure you have lots of room. Watch videos on how it works. Also a good idea to have a sharp knife handy in case of unexpected problems. Better to cut and run if necessary.

And NEVER tie off to the rear cleats!
2018 Sea Chaser 16, Honda BFP60

croaker stroker

Quote from: AJFishin on August 21, 2019, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: Yachter Yat on August 21, 2019, 08:34:43 AM
   AJ:  Not sure I understand these suggestions.  When you asked about an anchor windlass, I assumed you were talking about something like this??   
  https://www.lewmar.com/node/11627
Yat

That was one option I looked at. BUT I'm glad this thread took a slight turn to the suggestion of the anchor buoy system, it was something I didn't know about.
I bought a buoy which should arrive today so I'm looking forward to giving it a try.

I had a Lewmar. They are great. Just a little expensive and overkill on our smaller boats.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
1985 - 15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"Ex Tridente Pax". 🇺🇸