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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2019, 04:10:55 PM »
The times I remember most are not when I used radar as much as the times when I didn’t have it and needed it.  And a lot depends on where you fish.  Places like PA and the straits, thick fog can come up in minutes.  GPS can get you slowly back to port, but most people fish where fish and other anglers congregate and AIS wont help with that.  Offshore, bars and places like San Juans or Gulf Islands are places I would not want to be without radar, again AIS is not enough.  I would absolutely consider radar essential kit if I was cruising.  But most nearshore fisherman get by easily without it because they don’t go far from launch.  The further you crawl out on the branch though the more you’ll appreciate having it.  Oh BTW, radar doesn’t identify crab pots as well as some UToob videos would have you believe. 
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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2019, 06:54:06 PM »
I recently had to deal with similar circumstances. Research was overwhelming! I just finished installing a Garmin 7" GPSMAP unit with chirp + Clearvu sonar. Very impressed with everything so far. I didn't go for radar or Panoptics, but, the unit has the ability to upgrade at a later date...including TR-1 Gold Auto pilot  :beerchug:
Greg
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2005 Willies 16x54  Drift Boat w/2014 Yamaha 8hp
1991 17' Sea Chaser w/2012 E-Tech 75hp (sold)

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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2019, 12:19:13 PM »
I recently had to deal with similar circumstances. Research was overwhelming! I just finished installing a Garmin 7" GPSMAP unit with chirp + Clearvu sonar. Very impressed with everything so far. I didn't go for radar or Panoptics, but, the unit has the ability to upgrade at a later date...including TR-1 Gold Auto pilot  :beerchug:

Were you considering doing the Panoptix?  From what I've heard it's mainly only recommended to use while mooching or being stopped.  I've heard it's not really meant for trolling and will only go to a max depth of like 200', and I'm sure even less in the saltwater.  I too was interested until I heard these things about it... well and the extra $1,500 in price haha.
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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2019, 01:54:59 PM »
An interesting discussion about the same question on iFish...  Garmin seemed to be the choice for about 3 out of 4..

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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2019, 07:21:39 PM »

Were you considering doing the Panoptix?  From what I've heard it's mainly only recommended to use while mooching or being stopped.  I've heard it's not really meant for trolling and will only go to a max depth of like 200', and I'm sure even less in the saltwater.  I too was interested until I heard these things about it... well and the extra $1,500 in price haha.

When I first started doing my research, I did think about Panoptics. I fish a lot of shallow spots for RF & Lings. Then I saw the price difference for the the transducer, that supports Panoptics. The 💰 alone, made my decision much easier! I think I'll be just fine with Clearvu & Chirp...and the money saved, can go to the TR-1!
Greg
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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2019, 10:27:43 PM »
I'm in the camp of radar is one of those things you don't really need till you need it then you usually really need it.

Offline Kimbrey

Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2019, 11:25:22 PM »
I have Raymarine.  1000w transducer with the external DSM unit.  It's ok, good stuff but I'm so used to the commercial stuff it's kind of a step back for me so I'm a bit more critical.

I find with the one MFD at the helm the screen gets kind of small in a hurry when you want to be looking at the sounder, plotter and radar at the same time and mine is a 12.1" screen so I'd suggest the largest screen you and fit and afford or two screens.

Through the years I haven't heard the best about Lowrance but I think that was more service related.  Simrad is the same company soooo.
Garmin I don't know much about but it seems as if people really likes the stuff mainly because of ease of use.

Interesting thing about CHIRP.....I'm confused.  On the boat I run in AK we have a Simrad ES80.  This is from a completely different company than what you know as Simrad.  It's Simrad Kongsberg.  Our ES80 is set up with three transducers, 38khz, 70khz & 120khz all of which have CHIRP capabilities.  Simrad Kongsberg's guru who is probably the sharpest guy I've ever worked with regarding electronics (he teaches the electronic sales companies techs) tells us not to use CHIRP when we're shallow.  Maybe start using it 100 fathom and deeper.  He says CHIRP really shines when deep but we should get better definition shallow using CW or old school pings.  In the Bering Sea I'm living in the expander portion of the screen, bottom and up 2 fathom as we're spotting sole on the bottom.  When using CHIRP the bottom is all fuzzy.  Soooo I don't know what the heck my CHRIP in my Raymarine is actually giving me.  Sounds cool though.

Raymarine as Russ said isn't the easiest to figure your way around the menus and features.  I did an update on mine and lost all the fuel tank info.  It took me forever to get it back.  Had to say the boat had two tanks or something I forget what.

There's one piece of electronics that you won't ever regret getting especially if you plan on making some long trips.  An Autopilot.  You will never regret sticking one of those things on.  I put a Garmin on my boat.  I hooked up to the Raymarine mfd via NMEA 183. Waypoint data will go to the pilot and the pilots heading sensor data goes to the Raymarine.  I like running radar, plotter et cetera N up so that was a must for me.  I would suggest if you get a pilot get the same brand as your MFD as you'll have more available features than I do.  I just liked the idea of a Garmin pilot as they make pilots for airplanes so figured it'd be good. 

Radar....I don't have any experience with the broadbands that are out there now but do they draw less power than a standard radar?  Could be an important consideration for a small boat.  My Raymarine stuff seems to be a bit power sensitive but that might just be my setup.  The broadband might not have the range as a standard but with a small boat a lot of range probably isn't necessary. 
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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2019, 11:47:48 PM »
Radar is not only useful at night and in the fog when visibility is limited. It is also useful for finding other fishing boats, boats in distress, and buddies beyond what the eye can see. It can also spot feeding flocks of birds when you are fishing for Tuna.


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Offline GregE

Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2019, 11:42:30 AM »
 :yeahthat:  except the birds part-    you need a strong open array to do that per most dealers I talked to .

my project   http://www.arimaowners.com/index.php?topic=16895.msg199952;boardseen#new
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Re: Looking to Replace Electronics - Seeking Advice
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2019, 11:54:07 AM »
I have a cheap old Furuno 18” and I can even see single birds and buoys.

Maybe the broadband is not as sensitive ? 

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