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Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« on: November 26, 2018, 09:52:24 PM »
Hey all, found a boat I'm thinking about purchasing. Fish a Whaler right now but am moving up soon to an Arima or something similar size wise. It (19 sea ranger) has a Honda 150 on the back, as well as a kicker. From what I know about Arimas, that seems excessive. Is anyone running a similar set up? If so, what are your thoughts?

Offline Mooch

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2018, 10:28:15 PM »
Not overpowered, but at max rating.  The Honda 150hp's an excellent motor and a great match for that boat.  Here are some performance tests with the Honda BF135, which is basically same motor as BF150.

With SS 15.25 X17 Prop
https://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/marine/pdf/props/Arima%20Sea%20Ranger%2019%20Stainless%20-%20BF135.pdf

With Alum 14.5 X 17 Prop
https://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/marine/pdf/props/Arima%20Sea%20Ranger%2019%20Aluminum%20-%20BF135.pdf

More than likely the negatives you've heard is that Arimas are "butt heavy" and you need to lighten the load aft to get a better ride.  Nonsense!  Sea Rangers (19 & 21) can be "set-up" very nicely for all kinds of conditions with a "heavier" motor.   You may never need all 150 horses, but one thing you'll quickly appreciate is cruising comfortably at 22 MPH at a silky smooth 3500 rpms.

Good luck with the sale.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2018, 10:56:24 PM by Mooch »
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Online ohmytodd

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2018, 02:49:34 PM »
My new to me '97 SR19 came with a 2004 bf150 and a kicker. I've only had it on the water once so far but it performed great - shoots up on plane in seconds, gets the boat up around 40 at WOT and uses less fuel than my old 60hp 2-stroke. Depending on where you look up specs, the 115 through 150 motors weigh basically the same.

If the motor checks out, don't give it a second thought, go for it.
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Offline Fishin Machine

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2018, 05:34:57 PM »
I have the same boat and looking to upgrade to a 150 or 135 hp. My 90 HP is a dog since the kicker, was added. If I get more than one of my fat fishing buddies with a fuel tank of gas 22 mph is the best I can do.

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Offline bonesan

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2018, 11:11:28 AM »
Re powered my 19' Sea Ranger with 140 Suzuki. Really great engine for the boat.. Trims out easy and straight.

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2018, 06:26:02 PM »
Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback. Not sure the purchase of this exact boat will work out (we'll see) but will keep this in mind as I look for an Arima!

Offline Tj805

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2018, 08:26:45 PM »
I have a 19 chaser with a 130 Honda .
Thing flys and burns little to no fuel.
Like 4 gallons a day
I have a 40 gallon bait tank and usually fish three guys .
Never had a problem.
2000 sea chaser 19
Honda 130
2014 yamaha f8

Offline BestBoats

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2018, 10:12:00 PM »
Never heard anyone complain who had max horsepower on the other hand I hear plenty of complaints about being underpowered :twocents:
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
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Offline neild

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2018, 05:56:53 PM »
Re powered my 19' Sea Ranger with 140 Suzuki. Really great engine for the boat.. Trims out easy and straight.
:yeahthat: Best power to weight for that size with a low gear ratio .
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 06:01:40 PM by neild »
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Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2018, 08:35:00 AM »
Never heard anyone complain who had max horsepower on the other hand I hear plenty of complaints about being underpowered :twocents:

I guess I get to be a first for you.  The 115 I ran on my 17SC was too heavy.  And that was after moving the batteries into the cuddy.
 Lots of power, however, much too butt heavy.  The boat performed much better and more efficiently with a 90 on it.

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Offline amazing grace

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2018, 08:50:42 AM »
Hp is great. Weight is not, hanging on the rear end of a boat. Got to achieve a happen median. Imho Arima's are best served with enough hp, but not too much weight on the ass-end. There is not a lot of room for error on them. The ideal motors or all the models have been extensively discussed on here. Can you go either way and still be happy/satisfied. Yea, more or less.  :cha:
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Offline BestBoats

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2018, 06:07:25 AM »
Never heard anyone complain who had max horsepower on the other hand I hear plenty of complaints about being underpowered :twocents:

I guess I get to be a first for you.  The 115 I ran on my 17SC was too heavy.  And that was after moving the batteries into the cuddy.
 Lots of power, however, much too butt heavy.  The boat performed much better and more efficiently with a 90 on it.

Duelly noted. EDIT ....I have heard one person complain about having max horse power and 78,342 complain about being underpowered. :beerchug:
I can see the weight issue when it’s a choice that moves up in block size and increases weight substantially. The 90 to 115 is an example of that but the 115-150 class is not. Even from the 90 to 115 it’s 50 lbs...that
is pretty close to having a 90 with the batteries in the back. Surprised you saw such a huge difference.


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Offline Rokefin

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2018, 07:28:12 AM »
 :yeahthat: - I kind of agree with the more power logic as I did have the 17 with the 115 on it, and it is the only 17 I have ridden in so it makes me feel like I would want the max power because mentally I want to get from point A to point B as fast as I can - saying this though, I think the 90 hp would get me to my destination just as quick as a 115 would :shrug9:

In general, the 90hp is probably the popular choice for a 17 footer and a good choice, personally with my thought, I would be more comfortable going with a 115 Yami.
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Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2018, 10:51:50 AM »
Never heard anyone complain who had max horsepower on the other hand I hear plenty of complaints about being underpowered :twocents:

I guess I get to be a first for you.  The 115 I ran on my 17SC was too heavy.  And that was after moving the batteries into the cuddy.
 Lots of power, however, much too butt heavy.  The boat performed much better and more efficiently with a 90 on it.

StremFixer

Hey SF, that 17sc that you ran with the 115, did it have the 27 gallon tank?  I ask b/c I have a 16 gallon tank and wonder if my 17SR will be as butt heavy without that extra fuel.  I just pulled the trigger on a new 115 Etec and plan to hang it on the boat in January....really hoping it's not too heavy and that I haven't just made a big mistake....

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Offline Rokefin

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2018, 11:31:19 AM »
Never heard anyone complain who had max horsepower on the other hand I hear plenty of complaints about being underpowered :twocents:

I guess I get to be a first for you.  The 115 I ran on my 17SC was too heavy.  And that was after moving the batteries into the cuddy.
 Lots of power, however, much too butt heavy.  The boat performed much better and more efficiently with a 90 on it.

StremFixer

Hey SF, that 17sc that you ran with the 115, did it have the 27 gallon tank?  I ask b/c I have a 16 gallon tank and wonder if my 17SR will be as butt heavy without that extra fuel.  I just pulled the trigger on a new 115 Etec and plan to hang it on the boat in January....really hoping it's not too heavy and that I haven't just made a big mistake....


No mistake realtordarius, I had the 115, kicker, batteries in the back and had no consciousness of being butt heavy - I just ran it for what it was.......I did cringe a bit on your brand choice but I think any new motor will be satisfactory and I hope you have long love for the Etec.
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Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2018, 11:50:15 AM »
Never heard anyone complain who had max horsepower on the other hand I hear plenty of complaints about being underpowered :twocents:

I guess I get to be a first for you.  The 115 I ran on my 17SC was too heavy.  And that was after moving the batteries into the cuddy.
 Lots of power, however, much too butt heavy.  The boat performed much better and more efficiently with a 90 on it.

StremFixer

Hey SF, that 17sc that you ran with the 115, did it have the 27 gallon tank?  I ask b/c I have a 16 gallon tank and wonder if my 17SR will be as butt heavy without that extra fuel.  I just pulled the trigger on a new 115 Etec and plan to hang it on the boat in January....really hoping it's not too heavy and that I haven't just made a big mistake....
What does that new ETEC 115 weigh?
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Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2018, 12:23:36 PM »
Never heard anyone complain who had max horsepower on the other hand I hear plenty of complaints about being underpowered :twocents:

I guess I get to be a first for you.  The 115 I ran on my 17SC was too heavy.  And that was after moving the batteries into the cuddy.
 Lots of power, however, much too butt heavy.  The boat performed much better and more efficiently with a 90 on it.

StremFixer

Hey SF, that 17sc that you ran with the 115, did it have the 27 gallon tank?  I ask b/c I have a 16 gallon tank and wonder if my 17SR will be as butt heavy without that extra fuel.  I just pulled the trigger on a new 115 Etec and plan to hang it on the boat in January....really hoping it's not too heavy and that I haven't just made a big mistake....
What does that new ETEC 115 weigh?

390 #'s
SR 17 in Vancouver, BC

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Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2018, 05:01:35 PM »
The Yamaha F90 weighs about 353# and that is a standard on a 17 Arima. The weight of your new ETEC 115 at 390# should be fine. Just remember to store a few heavier items up front
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Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2018, 05:07:21 PM »
The Yamaha F90 weighs about 353# and that is a standard on a 17 Arima. The weight of your new ETEC 115 at 390# should be fine. Just remember to store a few heavier items up front

Awesome!!  Got a little worried there for a minute....
SR 17 in Vancouver, BC

Offline Fishgriller

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2018, 06:30:30 PM »
I have a 115 Yamaha on my 17SC.  It weighs about 375 dry.  The boat sits in the water just fine.
2018 Sea Chaser 17, 2018 Yamaha F115

Offline SC17_AK

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2018, 11:24:32 PM »
I run a 90hp Merc on my sr17 and it runs perfect with 2 people and gear. 3-4 people on board, you'll be begging for more power.

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Offline Yachter Yat

Re: Arima 19 Sea Ranger - Overpowered?
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2018, 06:29:55 AM »
   Seems like the Honda 100 at 359# might qualify as a reasonable fit for the 17's as well.  Having had such great luck with Honda, (not to mention being the "fanboy" I am) it would probably be my first choice.   


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