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Offline Rokefin

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2018, 09:44:45 AM »
Wow Yat, 5 beetles, Woodstock? I guess you could tow this with that beetle  :jester:




Back to this guy...."does this boat make me look fat"

Love this pic
Boatless
Gone - 1989 17ft Arima Sea Chaser 2010 115 Yamaha 1995 9.9 Yamaha kicker - Bodega mostly

Offline Rokefin

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2018, 09:50:15 AM »
Bubbles must be a diesel???
Boatless
Gone - 1989 17ft Arima Sea Chaser 2010 115 Yamaha 1995 9.9 Yamaha kicker - Bodega mostly

Offline Threeweight

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2018, 10:02:58 AM »
If you are looking for newer diesels, you want one new enough to use the DEF fluid for emissions control, not the old DPF catalyst and filter systems with regenerative cycles.  Fuel economy was awful on the 2008-2013 or 14 rigs, and the emissions system was not know for lasting.

Have a buddy with a 2015 Dodge with the 6.7 Cummins... the engine is a towing monster.
Former Sea Chaser 17 owner
Wild Card, Hewescraft Ocean Pro 220, Honda 225 and 9.9

“Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed.”
       --- Hunter S. Thompson

Offline Chasin Baitman

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2018, 10:11:08 AM »
YY, are you the guy in the hat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4
2011 19' Sea Ranger, 2011 Suzuki DF115, 2011 Honda 8 kicker

"When you get into one of these groups, there's only a couple ways you can get out. One, is death. The other...mental institutions"

Online Fisherdv

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2018, 11:29:20 AM »
 Good luck with your truck purchase. 3WT has all the bases covered. By the way, those are some nice future boats your considering. I really like those Ospreys. I see them on the water quite a bit. High sided, high, raised bow, great cabin. My buddies uncle has one on a triple axle trailer
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Yachter Yat

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2018, 07:32:55 PM »
   Baitman;  Didn't I tell you........I own land.........."and" a chainsaw?   :jester:

Yat
Dear Arima:  Please "square-off" the Hunter transom.  Make it like my old 77 Silverline.  Thank you.  Oh yeah...please hurry; I'm getting old.

16 SC/Honda 60

Online Fisherdv

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2018, 07:47:21 PM »
   Baitman;  Didn't I tell you........I own land.........."and" a chainsaw?   :jester:

Yat
BUT, after seeing that video you would NEVER use that chainsaw :jester:
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2018, 07:50:20 PM »

AAAAAAAAGH !!!  AAAAAAAAAAAGH !!  😫
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2018, 10:04:18 PM »
Yat- you’re supposed to say you didn’t inhale!
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Ssericz

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2018, 10:05:10 PM »
I’m looking at adding a diesel Colorado zr2 to the fleet now I have a couple diesel trucks and the new stuff is much quieter than old diesels. Power is much nicer than gas imo

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2018, 11:03:15 PM »
The zr2 doesn’t have much towing capacity.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Ssericz

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2018, 11:49:55 AM »
Don’t need it for towing mark... I have a old 2500 and a new 3500 for those purposes. Andi likes the zr2 duramax I like the fuel economy of it

Offline tsquared

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #62 on: February 09, 2018, 06:21:21 AM »
I’m in the market for a new truck as well. It’s time I stopped trying to squeeze my money out of my 97 f150 :twocents:. I’m looking at gas f150 s with the 6 cylinder ecoboost, maybe 2014 or 2015. The heaviest thing I pull is our 19 ft SC so it should be good for that. Most of our day to day driving is done with our Honda and the truck just sits in the driveway. Baitman: are you going to try Sidney waters again this spring?
Tom
Fish worship---is it wrong?

Offline Chasin Baitman

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #63 on: February 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM »
T2, you bet I’ll be in sidney! Look forward to it every year.

Footnote: I ended up getting the 2015 ram 6.7 cummins diesel. I’m a real friend of the earth! :P bout to do the inaugural tow.
2011 19' Sea Ranger, 2011 Suzuki DF115, 2011 Honda 8 kicker

"When you get into one of these groups, there's only a couple ways you can get out. One, is death. The other...mental institutions"

Offline Threeweight

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #64 on: February 10, 2018, 08:51:07 AM »
Congrats!

As far as the environment goes, the diesel is actually vastly more fuel efficient than the equivalent 12 mpg gas rig, and if the truck is new enough to use the DEF fluid for emissions it runs fairly clean while still getting good economy and great power.

I run B20 in my old girl (20% bio-diesel).  Cheaper than dino diesel in Oregon, runs cleaner and it has greater lubricity so it's better for the injectors.
Former Sea Chaser 17 owner
Wild Card, Hewescraft Ocean Pro 220, Honda 225 and 9.9

“Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed.”
       --- Hunter S. Thompson

Offline Hydroman

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #65 on: February 10, 2018, 09:42:46 AM »
Congrats!

As far as the environment goes, the diesel is actually vastly more fuel efficient than the equivalent 12 mpg gas rig, and if the truck is new enough to use the DEF fluid for emissions it runs fairly clean while still getting good economy and great power.

I run B20 in my old girl (20% bio-diesel).  Cheaper than dino diesel in Oregon, runs cleaner and it has greater lubricity so it's better for the injectors.


Do you run BIO in your Duramax, my '02 says it a No No.
Does the BIO affect you MPG?

I have 240k on my rig with no issues other than injectors, replaces 2 at 112k and replaced all 8 at 216k,there are supposed to be a new improves design.

Each time I had a failure I filled the crankcase with diesel,  never has smoking exhaust.

Jim
17 Sea Chaser (sold)
21 Skip Tower (sold)
27 Thunder Jet OS

Offline Diablo

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #66 on: February 10, 2018, 10:04:00 AM »

Footnote: I ended up getting the 2015 ram 6.7 cummins diesel. I’m a real friend of the earth! :P bout to do the inaugural tow.

Congrats, you will be happy with all that power. Cummins makes great diesels.
'98 19SR  '15 E Tec 115, '10 Honda 8
'88 17SR  '90 Johnson 90, Honda 8, SOLD

Offline Threeweight

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #67 on: February 10, 2018, 10:12:08 AM »
The fear of bio in the older trucks is that they didn't want to warranty the trucks for people using home-brew, or fuel from questionable sources that may be full of impurities.  Biodiesel is also a mild solvent, and it will "free up" the goo left behind by years of running dino diesel and send it running through the fuel system.  If one were going to run it in an older truck with a lot of miles, I'd want to run a tank or two of it then change the fuel filter.

Down here you can find B20 here at Shell stations, Safeways, Astro's, etc... and I suspect many, many trucks are running it without even knowing it.  I believe all the newer trucks (since 2010 or so) are approved for B20.

My 06' Duramax and 06' Jetta TDI both recommended nothing greater than B5 back in the day, but both have run tens of thousands of miles of B20 with no issues.
 I've just used fuel from reputable stations, and stayed on top of my fuel filter changes.  I haven't noticed any significant change in fuel economy... Jetta still gets 40+ mpg on the highway, the big red truck still gets 21 empty.

I believe your 02' is an LB-7 engine... first generation Duramax and the injectors were the weak point, and the design required a major tear down to access and replace. 
Former Sea Chaser 17 owner
Wild Card, Hewescraft Ocean Pro 220, Honda 225 and 9.9

“Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed.”
       --- Hunter S. Thompson

Offline Diablo

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #68 on: February 10, 2018, 10:56:21 AM »
The fear of bio in the older trucks is that they didn't want to warranty the trucks for people using home-brew, or fuel from questionable sources that may be full of impurities.  Biodiesel is also a mild solvent, and it will "free up" the goo left behind by years of running dino diesel and send it running through the fuel system.  If one were going to run it in an older truck with a lot of miles, I'd want to run a tank or two of it then change the fuel filter.

Down here you can find B20 here at Shell stations, Safeways, Astro's, etc... and I suspect many, many trucks are running it without even knowing it.  I believe all the newer trucks (since 2010 or so) are approved for B20.

My 06' Duramax and 06' Jetta TDI both recommended nothing greater than B5 back in the day, but both have run tens of thousands of miles of B20 with no issues.
 I've just used fuel from reputable stations, and stayed on top of my fuel filter changes.  I haven't noticed any significant change in fuel economy... Jetta still gets 40+ mpg on the highway, the big red truck still gets 21 empty.

I believe your 02' is an LB-7 engine... first generation Duramax and the injectors were the weak point, and the design required a major tear down to access and replace.

Any diesel can run on bio diesel. Older diesels need to replace all the rubber hoses in the fuel lines which is what causes problems in the old diesels running bio diesel. Bio diesel gets about 20% less mpg so B20 is not a very big hit on economy. I also like B20 and have used B100. The lubricosity of bio diesel is higher. That’s a good thing because when they developing low sulfur diesel low lubricosity was a problem. That makes me think B20 is an excellent mix.
Diesels will run on many alternative fuels like:
Synthetic diesel fuel.
Waist oil.
Vegetable oil.
Dimethyl ether (DME) and other heavier ethers.
Alcohols, i.e. ethanol and methanol.
Methane, i.e. natural gas, biogas and synthetic natural gas (SNG)
Hydrogen.
Blended fuels.
Some of these are referred to as bio diesel by some but are not. Biodiesel, i.e. diesel fuels derived from “renewable” feedstocks.
'98 19SR  '15 E Tec 115, '10 Honda 8
'88 17SR  '90 Johnson 90, Honda 8, SOLD

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #69 on: February 10, 2018, 11:30:07 AM »
Congrats!

As far as the environment goes, the diesel is actually vastly more fuel efficient than the equivalent 12 mpg gas rig, and if the truck is new enough to use the DEF fluid for emissions it runs fairly clean while still getting good economy and great power.

I run B20 in my old girl (20% bio-diesel).  Cheaper than dino diesel in Oregon, runs cleaner and it has greater lubricity so it's better for the injectors.


I don’t smell or see anything but fresh air coming from my Ram exhaust....pretty amazing to me after having owned a ‘93 6.5 Detroit.

That DEF system really works ! 

Chasin, that is a badass truck!  My son has the same truck.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Chasin Baitman

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2018, 04:40:39 PM »
Here she is. A little overpowered for the current job, but maybe in the future she can realize her full potential! Thanks for your help guys.
2011 19' Sea Ranger, 2011 Suzuki DF115, 2011 Honda 8 kicker

"When you get into one of these groups, there's only a couple ways you can get out. One, is death. The other...mental institutions"

Offline Rokefin

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2018, 06:07:52 PM »
Sweet set-up Baitman :applause:
Boatless
Gone - 1989 17ft Arima Sea Chaser 2010 115 Yamaha 1995 9.9 Yamaha kicker - Bodega mostly

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2018, 08:28:08 PM »
Awesome truck!  But does't it need bigger wheels and tires????  :jester:
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline ATGEP

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #73 on: February 10, 2018, 09:06:37 PM »
Awesome truck!  But does't it need bigger wheels and tires????  :jester:
And a 6" lift!

Online Fisherdv

Re: Truck - Gas or Diesel?
« Reply #74 on: February 10, 2018, 09:19:05 PM »
I say leave it stock but put some more aggressive tires on it. Like some of the new BFG all terrains one size larger than stock tires :twocents: Nice truck!
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP