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Online Fisherdv

Re: Batteries
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2018, 11:55:44 AM »
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Batteries
« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2018, 11:57:46 AM »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
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Online Fisherdv

Re: Batteries
« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2018, 12:03:02 PM »
Every time I’m in West Marine they quote my a different price for annual service. I have to look into it again
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Online Fisherdv

Re: Batteries
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2018, 12:07:50 PM »
If you don’t have a membership then it’s big $$$$$$$. I need the salt and fresh membership
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Batteries
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2018, 12:11:56 PM »
Not big money for just towing.  You can buy it from the link I posted.

They are probably quoting you an insurance package.  My insurance is through Progressive.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Online Fisherdv

Re: Batteries
« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2018, 12:17:08 PM »
I mean if you call a tow and you don’t have the membership. Then I heard it can run $800+ for a tow. Thanks for bringing it up. I need to sign up
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline GHMariner

Re: Batteries
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2018, 12:58:56 PM »
Guys
IMO
I don't think you need to carry a jump pack if you have a two battery system, why not just add the ACR so that there is no possible way to discharge the start battery and make it automatic... For the added price of a ACR or battery kit  and having this switching being done automatically... I would seriously think that common sense kicks in and that you check your batteries/fuel before you head out. 

If that's the case then better keep 2 jump packs in case the one you brought was not charged...

The only way this would make sense if  you had a single battery system, but I would recommend that you add a second battery... if your charging system was to ever fail while you were out, once the start battery was depleted you would be dead in the water, the jump pack would do nothing for you (as it has a short duration of charges). This also goes if your battery all of a sudden shorted, so you can start your motor to get running with the jump pack but strain/possibly damage your charging system.
This is when you would switch to your second deep cycle and have a better chance to make it back to the nearest dock, or be able to use your good battery to radio for help.



If you have a 2 battery system here is what I would do in the event the start battery failed
-Switch to battery 2 only try to start
-If a no go as a "Hail Mary" combine the battery's and try again.
If both battery's combined wont start the engine then you have a possible charging/connection/battery/fuse or starter issue...
-Try to pull start or if you have a kicker use it.

If you want to combine batteries manually to charge, please install Voltmeters to check each batteries voltage before combining. Make sure you have over 12v per battery, the worst thing is to combine a good and bad battery and cause further damage.


 Once again this is just my  :twocents: the decision is always yours.


Dev

Sure. But why NOT carry one?

I mean, they cost $60 and take up as much space as a bottle of water. It's not like it's a big investment or hassle to bring along. Plus, if you run into another boater in need of a jump, you can use it to help them. Heck, the moment I realized I needed one was when I was camping and my car battery died and I asked someone if they could give me a jump. He walked down to his boat at the dock and pulled out the jump pack.

Offline DevMah

Re: Batteries
« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2018, 01:55:13 PM »
Guys
IMO
I don't think you need to carry a jump pack if you have a two battery system, why not just add the ACR so that there is no possible way to discharge the start battery and make it automatic... For the added price of a ACR or battery kit  and having this switching being done automatically... I would seriously think that common sense kicks in and that you check your batteries/fuel before you head out. 

If that's the case then better keep 2 jump packs in case the one you brought was not charged...

The only way this would make sense if  you had a single battery system, but I would recommend that you add a second battery... if your charging system was to ever fail while you were out, once the start battery was depleted you would be dead in the water, the jump pack would do nothing for you (as it has a short duration of charges). This also goes if your battery all of a sudden shorted, so you can start your motor to get running with the jump pack but strain/possibly damage your charging system.
This is when you would switch to your second deep cycle and have a better chance to make it back to the nearest dock, or be able to use your good battery to radio for help.



If you have a 2 battery system here is what I would do in the event the start battery failed
-Switch to battery 2 only try to start
-If a no go as a "Hail Mary" combine the battery's and try again.
If both battery's combined wont start the engine then you have a possible charging/connection/battery/fuse or starter issue...
-Try to pull start or if you have a kicker use it.

If you want to combine batteries manually to charge, please install Voltmeters to check each batteries voltage before combining. Make sure you have over 12v per battery, the worst thing is to combine a good and bad battery and cause further damage.


 Once again this is just my  :twocents: the decision is always yours.


Dev

Sure. But why NOT carry one?

I mean, they cost $60 and take up as much space as a bottle of water. It's not like it's a big investment or hassle to bring along. Plus, if you run into another boater in need of a jump, you can use it to help them. Heck, the moment I realized I needed one was when I was camping and my car battery died and I asked someone if they could give me a jump. He walked down to his boat at the dock and pulled out the jump pack.

Nothing personal... I just giving my opinion...
Lets not compare being stuck on land vs water or car to a boat.
I'm sure I can ask the same questions...
-Why not add the ACR so you don't have any of these issue?

FYI the cost for mini ACR is approx $60 also .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00DQ9PU7U/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Sea-7601-DC-Mini-ACR-Automatic-Charging-Relay-65-Amp-/112321371163?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

You can carry a jump pack.. its up to you.

It is very common in forums to discuss what the Pro's and Cons are, at the end of the day we can only recommend things... it up to the user to decide.

 :beerchug:
Dev
2015 21' Sea Ranger
2015 Yamaha F150
2013 Mercury 9.9 Bigfoot 4 blade
2012 Lund 1650SS  w 2012 60HP Mercury-Sold

Online Fisherdv

Re: Batteries
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2018, 02:21:15 PM »
Would leaving a ff/gps on while drifting or anchored with the motor off cause a significant battery drain on a single battery?
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Threeweight

Re: Batteries
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2018, 02:54:04 PM »
Not unless you are running a monster 1 killowatt transducer.  Or have a weak battery.  More typically I think issues that arise on the water are from tired old batteries, or a short that causes a severe draw.  Both are good arguments 2 battieries + a good switch that isolates the two circuits, and an auto charging relay of some kind.

I don't have an issue with the lithium jump packs at all, but IMO they are an emergency backup item, not a replacement for redundant systems.  30 miles offshore, I'd prefer to have 2 batteries than 1 and a jump pack (but maybe 2 batteries + a jump pack isn't a bad idea).
Former Sea Chaser 17 owner
Wild Card, Hewescraft Ocean Pro 220, Honda 225 and 9.9

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Offline DevMah

Re: Batteries
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2018, 09:01:50 PM »
Emergency start rope  :shrug9:

Fisherv

If you have a Yamaha here is how to pull start.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SvPCPBIJ8w8


Dev
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 09:11:01 PM by DevMah »
2015 21' Sea Ranger
2015 Yamaha F150
2013 Mercury 9.9 Bigfoot 4 blade
2012 Lund 1650SS  w 2012 60HP Mercury-Sold