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Offline Kingsackem

What do you think
« on: January 22, 2018, 03:07:11 PM »
Sorry this has to be my first post but you have to start somewhere. This came up for sale. The guy wants 4000. Says the motor runs just not great.

Online Fisherdv

Re: What do you think
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 03:12:24 PM »
Looks nice, but I’m sure everyone here would want more details
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: What do you think
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 03:20:43 PM »

What does the trailer look like ?

They don’t come much cheaper than $4000.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Online Fisherdv

Re: What do you think
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 03:26:31 PM »
“Motor runs, but not great”? What kind of motor? What’s wrong with it? It could be a nice $4000 hull, but may need a new $10k motor?
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Hydroman

Re: What do you think
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 03:40:16 PM »
Looks like the main engine an inline Merc 2 stroke, either 4 or 6 cylinders.  It's hard to determine the height of the engine.  I believe they were in production from early 70' to early 90'

Jim
17 Sea Chaser (sold)
21 Skip Tower (sold)
27 Thunder Jet OS

Offline Threeweight

Re: What do you think
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 03:51:47 PM »
At $4000, the motor is irrelevant IMO. 

An Arima 17 in fair condition with a decent galvanized trailer and an old 2 stroke typically runs $6000-8000 (higher end if the motor runs well).  Looks like that boat has good canvas.  I'd want to know what kind of shape the hull is in, any soft spots in the deck, and if the trailer is in decent shape.  The hull looks to be a mid-80's boat, given the bow rail it has.  In that case, I'd really want to look for signs of soft spots in the deck.  It is fixable if it has them, but more hassle.

If all three are "good" and I wanted a 17' hull, I'd go for it and plan on re-powering either with a used 4 stroke 90 ($4000 or so) or a new one ($9-10k).  I bought my old 89' Chaser for $6000 with a running 2 strokes (Johnson 90/15), a functional canvas, and a good trailer in 2008.  Hull was in fair to good shape. Rewire, re-power, good canvas and electronics and accessories when I sold it in 2016 for $16k with 400 hours on the main.

Re: that old motor, by running but not well, I'd assume the old 2 stroke is either suffering from low compression (in which case it's junk) or gummed up carbs (fixable pretty cheap).  IMO, it isn't worth putting more than a few hundred bucks in those motors, as they are only worth $1500 or so when running great.

« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 03:57:17 PM by Threeweight »
Former Sea Chaser 17 owner
Wild Card, Hewescraft Ocean Pro 220, Honda 225 and 9.9

“Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed.”
       --- Hunter S. Thompson

Online Fisherdv

Re: What do you think
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 04:06:38 PM »
Looks like changed to starboard panels too. I agree with 3WT. Compression test first thing. If it is only gummed carbs that’s a somewhat easy fix with the service manual. Would involve setting timing and a link and sync which is pretty involved, but can be done by the home mechanic. Hard to tell in the pics but looks like a really nice hull
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline troll4fish

Re: What do you think
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 04:38:19 PM »
I agree with threeweight! I bought my 1992 17SC for $7500 with a good running 1984 115 Evinrude  2 stroke, no electronics, workable canvas and a trailer in good shape and a nice boat cover. I repainted the motor and added new decals to it , sold it for $1500 so I then had a boat for which I paid $6K ready to add new power and toys. My hull is in great shape and I have added a ton of new toys to the boat to the tune of $26K in the whole package. I would snatch that 17 up in a second for $4k and even if the trailer is junk it is still a very workable restoration if the hull is good, no soft spots in the floor. From what I see in these 2 pictures If I was looking it would be a certain front runner. If you try to keep it cheap with that motor you will regret it! in the end you get what you pay for so bite the bullet if you get it and repower with a couple of modern day motors (main and kicker)
 :twocents:
92 Sea Chaser 17
2004 (2015 total rebuild) Mercury 90 EFI 4 stroke
2014 Honda 8hp full remote power tilt!

Offline Kingsackem

Re: What do you think
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 04:46:18 PM »
It has an ez load trailer and a 2006 6 horse kicker. I’m not hoping for much with the main. I’m going to do a compression test, just to see if I can get a little use out of it. Cones with 2 cannon manual downriggers and a Lowrance elite 7.

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: What do you think
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 05:08:47 PM »
It has an ez load trailer and a 2006 6 horse kicker. I’m not hoping for much with the main. I’m going to do a compression test, just to see if I can get a little use out of it. Cones with 2 cannon manual downriggers and a Lowrance elite 7.

If you are lucky, maybe it will run for a few more years. 
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline naldodook

Re: What do you think
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 05:16:33 PM »
If you do decide not to go with it, can you send me contact info so I can also check it out?  Currently looking for 17' Arima.

Thanks,

Online Fisherdv

Re: What do you think
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 05:17:28 PM »
  If compression is good, it may be worth a complete tune up, rebuilt carbs, filters, fuel pump, hoses, water pump, plugs, lower end fluid etc. Those old Merc’s are pretty solid motors. Could easily get a few more years if not more out of it depending on its problems. And you have a newer kicker motor just in case
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Tj805

Re: What do you think
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 05:33:14 PM »
I agree with 3wt
Buy it and slap on a used fourstroke .
2000 sea chaser 19
Honda 130
2014 yamaha f8

Online headduck

Re: What do you think
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 05:41:25 PM »
A new 4 stroke is great...the route i went...

But for 13k...you get this girl and all the goodies...

https://portland.craigslist.org/nco/boa/6452904665.html

Not my boat...but if I were to replicate my path (which started at 4k with a hull and then waayyy exceeded 13k) or go with this girl...i go with this girl...  :twocents:
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 05:45:42 PM by headduck »
1987 17' Sea Ranger 2015 Mercury 115 2012 Evinrude 9.8

Offline GregE

Re: What do you think
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 06:19:57 PM »
X2 on the CF boat for 13K   :applause:


Someone wise said " you can pay me now or pay me later.......  "

trim tabs, radar, wiring, LED lights, HDS 7, Scotty power DRs, pot puller, newer trailer w/ side boards, newer Honda 90  216 hours    :party: :party:.......

$4K looks like a bargain but You'll end up spending $10K to get a boat like it should be.  2014 Honda 90 is injected 4 stroke and is a good match for a 17.  The teak plywood needs a little cleaning -  don't get hung up on cosmetic stuff.


What's your location Sackem?
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 09:42:55 PM by GregE »
Greg
Osprey 26 LC Kodak;  Arima SR 19 HT; SL 22 Honda 225
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Sold:  Arima SE 16 WeeBait; SH 15 WeeBoat;
SR 21 NoBait;  SL 22 ReBait

Offline Threeweight

Re: What do you think
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2018, 08:48:57 PM »
What they said... if you can afford it, that boat with the Honda 90 is a screaming deal. 
Former Sea Chaser 17 owner
Wild Card, Hewescraft Ocean Pro 220, Honda 225 and 9.9

“Never turn your back on fear. It should always be in front of you, like a thing that might have to be killed.”
       --- Hunter S. Thompson

Offline dbhazjack

Re: What do you think
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2018, 09:08:27 PM »
Great advice, however a wife that MAY balk at 13k for a boat MAY tolerate 4K initially and then $1000 per month for a project that keeps a hubby of of her hair for a year..... :stirthepot:
2012 17' Sea Chaser, 90 hp Honda, 8 hp Honda Kicker.

Online AJFishin

Re: What do you think
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2018, 09:47:43 PM »
Kingsackem, welcome aboard!

I agree with what everyone has said here. Also if that engine can be revive, that would be a great deal.  Do that compression test and if all of those numbers are good straight across, follow through with the advice that is given here for that engine and then put your new boat through some runs.
If the engine is toast, repowering is an option.

These boats will give you a lot and keep given.

Wish you luck!
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 09:51:40 PM by AJFishin »
'96 Sea Chaser 16 - Yamaha 70HP - 2 smoke

! Go Kings Go !

Offline GoodDays

Re: What do you think
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2018, 10:20:05 PM »
I’m surprised it’s still for sale at that price !!   Buy it before someone else does !  Used 4 Stroke 90 can be had for $4000 to $6000   And Good to go for less than 10k ??   Doesn’t get much better than that

Offline GHMariner

Re: What do you think
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2018, 05:44:46 AM »
Looks like a good candidate for a repower.