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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2017, 09:44:59 PM »
Looks good, nice and clean.
So did you get sticker shock when you purchased the main fuel hose ? I know I did when I had to replace mine  :bigshock: That cut into my beer money :jester:
I got sticker shock when I bought the whole thing, tank, install kit, fuel filter, fittings  :bigshock:
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2017, 09:51:57 PM »


....Ouch......my neck.   :whistle:
Why does this forum always make a straight pic sideways :shrug9:  :facepalm:

I think Streamfixer does that to the new guys.  :shrug9:  mine didn’t straighten out until after 1000 posts.

Yikes....LOOK....what’s going to happen to me when I pass 10,000 posts ???
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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2017, 09:55:30 PM »


....Ouch......my neck.   :whistle:
Why does this forum always make a straight pic sideways :shrug9:  :facepalm:

I think Streamfixer does that to the new guys.  :shrug9:  mine didn’t straighten out until after 1000 posts.

Yikes....LOOK....what’s going to happen to me when I pass 10,000 posts ???
Try and see! One more to go! :applause:
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Online AJFishin

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2017, 10:13:31 PM »
Looks good, nice and clean.
So did you get sticker shock when you purchased the main fuel hose ? I know I did when I had to replace mine  :bigshock: That cut into my beer money :jester:
I got sticker shock when I bought the whole thing, tank, install kit, fuel filter, fittings  :bigshock:
It's amazing how fast that beer fund gets depleted when you have a boat  :jester:
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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2017, 10:17:43 PM »
Looks good, nice and clean.
So did you get sticker shock when you purchased the main fuel hose ? I know I did when I had to replace mine  :bigshock: That cut into my beer money :jester:
I got sticker shock when I bought the whole thing, tank, install kit, fuel filter, fittings  :bigshock:
It's amazing how fast that beer fund gets depleted when you have a boat  :jester:
No beer money but I got some Crown!  :bigshock: :beerchug:
« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 08:03:59 AM by Fisherdv »
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Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2017, 12:32:13 PM »

Almost done, just waiting on the racor fuel filter and some fittings

Darci's Raycor is bolted to the Starboard  upright in that area just above the fuel inlet.
You will have room to change the element.
A tuna can is a good size to drain off any watery goo from the clear bowl.
A short section of hose is needed to fully drain things when you change the element.

Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2017, 01:59:13 PM »
Thx Darci, that’s where I will be mounting the filter. I got some 90 degree elbow fittings for the hoses to the filter connections so I won’t have kinked hoses. It’s really tight in there
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Online AJFishin

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2017, 03:14:34 PM »
Although mine is not a Racor, so I don't know how much larger the Racor's are, but mine is mounted up there too, with no kinks.
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Offline J Chaser

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2017, 03:34:26 PM »
Mine is the same. It will fit!

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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2017, 04:31:25 PM »
I’m going to put a quick disconnect on the fitting from the tank, and on the filter outlet. That way if I’m on the water and the filter gets plugged up I can plug in directly to the tank, bypassing the filter if needed. With the 90 degree fittings the hoses point straight down off of the filter leaving much more room. The quick disconnect fittings stick out about an inch or so more and the fuel hoses are pretty stiff
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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2017, 04:48:33 PM »
I may be able to run the hoses straight out the back of the filter but I did a mock-up with the filter and I’m not sure I would have room with a quick disconnect. With the 90 degree fittings I can come off the front of the filter and have plenty of room and easy access to the quick disconnect. I’ll find out when install it. Is there any problem with fuel being restricted with the 90 degree fittings?
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline First Cabin

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2017, 06:00:58 PM »
Love the SS filter housing.  It’s tight in there, but works well.  I have one line out to the main and another out to the kicker.  I change the filter every spring. 
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Offline Peddler

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2017, 06:09:10 PM »
I’m going to put a quick disconnect on the fitting from the tank, and on the filter outlet. That way if I’m on the water and the filter gets plugged up I can plug in directly to the tank, bypassing the filter if needed. With the 90 degree fittings the hoses point straight down off of the filter leaving much more room. The quick disconnect fittings stick out about an inch or so more and the fuel hoses are pretty stiff

If the filter gets plugged up on the water, you’re not going to want to run that fuel directly into the engine. You’ll just end up with more problems. Carry spare filters instead, eliminate the QD’s, and the extra chance of leaks. (My $0.02.)


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Offline First Cabin

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2017, 06:17:50 PM »
I’m going to put a quick disconnect on the fitting from the tank, and on the filter outlet. That way if I’m on the water and the filter gets plugged up I can plug in directly to the tank, bypassing the filter if needed. With the 90 degree fittings the hoses point straight down off of the filter leaving much more room. The quick disconnect fittings stick out about an inch or so more and the fuel hoses are pretty stiff

If the filter gets plugged up on the water, you’re not going to want to run that fuel directly into the engine. You’ll just end up with more problems. Carry spare filters instead, eliminate the QD’s, and the extra chance of leaks. (My $0.02.)


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I agree!  I’ve never found a drop of water or speck of dirt in my fuel.  If my filter was plugged, last thing I would want to do is bypass it and tap into the fouled tank.  Onboard I keep a separate emergency tank of 5 gallons with a new fuel line coiled up ready to use.  Should I have fuel trouble on the water, I will disconnect at the motor and connect my emergency fuel directly and try to get home ASAP...on the kicker if necessary to conserve fuel.
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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2017, 06:36:37 PM »
The filter top I got has 1/4 npt threads, should I have gotten 3/8? The quick disconnect on my motor now is a 1/4 npt quick disconnect. So would I benefit any from having a 3/8 filter housing? The motor is only 60 hp but I would rather more flow than to little :shrug9:
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Offline Threeweight

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2017, 11:30:09 PM »
If your motor has 1/4, I'd stick with 1/4. 

3/8 provides greater flow, but I can't imagine your motor is going to need it.  My Honda 225 uses 3/8... my old Suzuki 90 used 5/16.

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Offline milos dad

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2017, 08:15:50 AM »
Fisher - do you have room under the port sponson for a portable tank?  That way you could run your Honda from a remote tank in the event you have an issue with your fuel filter?

M D
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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2017, 08:33:53 AM »
Fisher - do you have room under the port sponson for a portable tank?  That way you could run your Honda from a remote tank in the event you have an issue with your fuel filter?

M D
M D, yes I may just have enough room to put a portable 3 gallon tank there. I would like to have at least one quick disconnect on the line from the motor so I could just plug into the portable if needed without removing hose clamps. Im just waiting on a few fittings I had to order online because my local WM didn’t have them in stock
2018, Sea Chaser 16, Honda 60HP

Offline J Chaser

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2017, 09:01:32 AM »
I use a portable 3 gallon tank as a backup as well, with a Yamaha fuel line attached.

John
Sea Chaser 1511, Yamaha F70, Yamaha F6 kicker

Offline milos dad

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2017, 09:52:53 AM »
I  like John's idea, where you just have to disconnect the built-in tank connection at the Honda, and re-connect with the portable.
Rick
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Offline Threeweight

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2017, 11:24:28 AM »
Why not just carry a spare filter element and appropriate strap wrenches?  That's what everyone I know does.

The whole point of having the Racor is to have a very good water separating fuel filter that filters down to 10 microns.  If it gets a slug of water, you can drain it.  If it gets so plugged up it causes a fuel restriction, you can swap it out in 3 or 4 minutes (make sure you put a little grease on the rubber seals and on the plastic bowl threads ever time you install a new one to make them easier to change). 

I can see wanting a second tank if you want to increase your range... but bypassing a Racor fuel filter to run a portable tank in case you have bad fuel issues seems kinda silly to me.  Like bypassing the oil filter in your car and running a second oil tank in case you have an oil filter restriction.

It can be a little tough to get the clear bowl off the filter element when replacing the element.  Tough to make a strap wrench hold, and channel locks will break the fins.  Racor makes a wrench specifically for this... West Marine carries them.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/racor--fuel-filter-bowl-wrench--1930551?cm_mmc=PS-_-Google-_-GSC%2520-%2520Product%2520Type-_-1930551&product_id=1930551&adpos=1o1&creative=108421551724&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&mrkgadid=3076578854&mrkgcl=481&rkg_id=h-3a4775a35269cae5d27a3164c2b0c635_t-1510860631&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp--TqurD1wIVhK_sCh3zQwR_EAkYASABEgKZGfD_BwE
« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 11:31:30 AM by Threeweight »
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Offline J Chaser

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2017, 11:38:17 AM »
I actually have a spare filter as well.. Overkill maybe, but I like having the extra 3 gallons to get me home if I need it..

J.
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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2017, 11:38:31 AM »
Thx for the link for the bowl wrench. I do have a spare filter I will keep on board, I bought a Seirra kit that came with a Seirra filter but I got a racor filter with bowl S3213 that I will use as the main and will keep the Seirra filter for backup if needed. It was only a few dollars more for the whole kit so I basically got a spare filter for a couple dollars
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Online Fisherdv

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2017, 11:49:04 AM »
So just to be clear on the filter swap on the water would I connect a small length of hose to the bowl drain, open the petcock, drain into a small container with a lid, put on new filter, prime fuel bulb and be on my way? Just want to be sure I know how to do it correctly before hand.
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: 27 gallon gas tank install on 16 SC
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2017, 06:59:17 PM »
The Racor filters use a fuel bowl that is a separate part than the actual filter.  3WT was saying that it is REALLY hard to unscrew the plastic bowl from the filter after it has been on for a year.  I carry a spare filter and a spare bowl and an oil filter strap wrench that is correctly sized to unscrew the filter from the head bracket.  I struggle to remove the bowl even at home using a money wrench and vise or a strap wrench.
You can also use a valve to select between your tanks.
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