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Offline AlaskaBill

What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« on: December 24, 2011, 12:35:24 PM »
That squarish floor box in the deck forward of the fish hold and in front of the cuddly door. I have little use for ice and I forget the box is even there most of the time. But, I was pondering...(danger) since...(justification) it is lower than the transom...(visualize) how about pluming the bilge pump(s) and transdcer in a cutout in the box bottom?

 E-Z access, use of an un-used space.  Maybe even hinge the lid so little chance of a stray downrigger ball finding it's way into the compartment? Why not?

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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2011, 01:40:05 PM »
Now I use it to hold my DR weights.
Before that I used it to hold my plastic lure boxes.

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Offline AlaskaBill

Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2011, 01:44:23 PM »
Terry, Do you see a problem with the builg and transducer location?

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2011, 02:06:54 PM »
The transducer should be nearer to the transom.
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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2011, 02:49:28 PM »
Mine is lined with a chunk of styrofoam insulation and holds all my spare downrigger weights ..

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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2011, 05:18:15 PM »
Down rigger weights and rod holders when on the road

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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2011, 05:51:55 PM »
I guess one could place a transducer there but...WHY would you?
That's too far forward for conventional way of thinking. 
I believe it's really designed to be just a storage bin for smaller items but then if you line it with styrofoam it would really be the cooler they call it (big enough for a six-pack).

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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2011, 06:07:19 PM »
I guess one could place a transducer there but...WHY would you?
That's too far forward for conventional way of thinking. 
I believe it's really designed to be just a storage bin for smaller items but then if you line it with styrofoam it would really be the cooler they call it (big enough for a six-pack).



I thought of cutting out the rear fishbox, but I USE the fishbox, for fish! Why put the transducer in the stern? Cavitation bubble distortion at high speed perhaps (?) but I use the sonar while trolling. It seems that putting the bilge pump at the lowest point would make sence. I was thinking of easy bilge pump service. and getting the pump out of that gopher hole in the stern...

Offline fishorcrab

Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2011, 06:15:42 PM »
There has been earlier discussion about shoot through the hull mounting of sonar transducers.  The only place this can work is near the stern where it is a single thinkness of fiberglass rather than the fiberglass/foam/fiberglass sandwich.  The sandwich makes our boats mostly unsinkable but would absorb most of the sonar energy in the foam and material transitions. 

Maybe someone else will remember if the discussion was here or on one of the older sites. Belinda knows the facts here. Perhaps, she will chime in.

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Re: Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2011, 08:14:43 PM »
I believe you want your bulge pump at the stern for those times you would need it working while under power.  For example in a trailing sea that is coming over the transom.  It's a bit of a holy @#$% situation, but that's when it would be most valuable imho.  Or, taking waves over the bow.  In either case, you aren't going to hang out on those type of seas for a beer, you're heading in, fast.
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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2011, 10:23:08 PM »
There has been earlier discussion about shoot through the hull mounting of sonar transducers.  The only place this can work is near the stern where it is a single thinkness of fiberglass rather than the fiberglass/foam/fiberglass sandwich.  The sandwich makes our boats mostly unsinkable but would absorb most of the sonar energy in the foam and material transitions. 

Maybe someone else will remember if the discussion was here or on one of the older sites. Belinda knows the facts here. Perhaps, she will chime in.

Paul


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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2011, 06:41:08 PM »
Pretty sure that was on the other site. I made more than 1 reply in that thread.
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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2011, 07:12:25 PM »
Black rock fish! :jester:
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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 12:35:47 PM »
My styrofoam isnt for insulation... just to hold the downrigger balls from rolling and bouncing around  !!!

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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 03:21:17 PM »
Fillet n Release I thought... :biggrin:
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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2011, 04:13:46 PM »

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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2011, 07:04:05 PM »
Oh what the hay.....just cut out the small box bottom and mount your transducer there. That way you'll get to the fish faster than your tail end. And it sure beats marking an X on the side of the boat where you caught your last fish.
Just joking. The deepest part of your boat is at the engine/transom. That is the best place for it. (or near it) Good luck. JW
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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2011, 11:11:55 AM »
Just joking. The deepest part of your boat is at the engine/transom. That is the best place for it. (or near it) Good luck. JW
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Why does the boat drain more when you RAISE the bow? I am to think that the deck level of our Arimas are about at the water line (at rest of course, not on step).
 Just a casual look (use a stick if you are impaired) will tell anyone that the distance from deck to the transom @ the drain hole is shallower than the same measurement @ the fishbox drain hole.

 I think the bilge is just a little deeper forward that at the stern.

 No way to put the transducer under the lunch box if there is floatation laminated under the lunch box floor. (Is there?)

 And the point of bilge drainage underway makes allot of sense. I was just thinking that location would be well protected and very accessable for repairs and maintenance. I may well put a second bilge pump in the fishbox... an automatic for times I keep in slip. 


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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 06:19:56 AM »

I had to re-rout my transducer wires to the port side due to interference from the ignition. At least, if you mount in the lunch box, you would avoid a long wire run. You may get bubbles to far forward though.
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Re: What do you put in the "lunch box"?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 11:32:08 AM »
I would not think that mounting a transducer in the "lunchbox" or helm area is a good idea. When at cruising speed you will see a lot of turbulence in that area as the bow bounces and may see a lot of air bubbles around the transducer. Also the logistics of mounting a transducer is a real problem because you have a V hull at that area, you would need to most likely use a through the hull transducer and not a shoot-thru-hull type. I doubt you can mount dead center or through the keel, so you would then end up with a large wedge mount or your sonar beam angled to port or starboard. If that all works... then you are mounting a transducer where it can easily be damaged as it is trailered.

I think you need to mount any transducer toward the stern unless it is a bow mount on an electric trolling motor which is not an Arima application.
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