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Offline BestBoats

Bait tank update
« on: September 17, 2017, 07:49:39 AM »
I plumbed my two rear factory live wells with kodiac intakes at the bottom and an overflow at the top spilling into the motorwell. Used a Piranna live well pump mount on the transom with a bracket I made with a pickup screen. I use a submersible LED light in each.  Yesterday I put a scoop of anchovies in each tank. I ran 50 out ( not going easy), used one side up first. Probably had 20 die during the course of the day. Had about 20 left on the starboard side at the end of the day. Ran in very hard and still had about 12 lively swimmers when we hit the dock 12.5 hours and 150 miles later.
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline GregE

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2017, 10:11:34 AM »
BB, you Know what we want.......   :arms:
Greg
Osprey 26 LC Kodak;  Arima SR 19 HT; SL 22 Honda 225
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Sold:  Arima SE 16 WeeBait; SH 15 WeeBoat;
SR 21 NoBait;  SL 22 ReBait

Offline Flying Arima

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2017, 11:55:37 AM »
 :dance: pictures please!
James


2015 19ft sea chaser / REEL TYME
2015 yamaha 115

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2017, 04:33:23 PM »
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2017, 04:35:19 PM »
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2017, 04:36:26 PM »
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2017, 04:37:26 PM »
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2017, 04:38:35 PM »
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2017, 04:39:24 PM »
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline GregE

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2017, 10:49:57 PM »
thanks for those.
What does the tank look like and where did you place it?
Greg
Osprey 26 LC Kodak;  Arima SR 19 HT; SL 22 Honda 225
http://www.sagecreekforums.com/phpforum/index.php
Sold:  Arima SE 16 WeeBait; SH 15 WeeBoat;
SR 21 NoBait;  SL 22 ReBait

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2017, 11:10:07 PM »
thanks for those.
What does the tank look like and where did you place it?
They are the two factory bait tanks in the back corners ...11gallons each on my 21
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline AJFishin

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2017, 05:44:54 PM »
Great job on setting things up with your stock bait tanks. I also like your pump set up.

I read you had some bait fish die off in your tank even thou you had them split up pretty much equally.
Then I noticed in one of your pictures you have an areator nozzle, which also sticks out a little far.

I only bring this up because I used to have an areator nozzle and I had a lot foaming. I was told is not good for saltwater bait and the water inlet should only pump smooth running water as it will create less turbulence in the tank for the fragile bait fish.

Once I got rid of my areator and installed a PVC elbow and a ball valve to adjust the flow, along with a top drain, I went from about as many bait fish dying on me, as you had on your last outing, to none.
To me the difference was the PVC elbow.

Again just my  :twocents:
« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 09:54:25 PM by AJFishin »
1996 Arima Sea Chaser 1511

96' Yamaha 70HP - 2 stroke

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Offline FishAddict

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 01:40:09 PM »
I would cut your inflow off flush and put a strainer like this or something similar to send the water in a counter clockwise direction.  This will help with the proper no bubbles flow and give the chovies less to ram into while doing a circle.   :twocents:
21ft Sea Ranger w/Yamaha F150

Offline BestBoats

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2017, 07:45:23 PM »
It's not an airiator nozzle it's a directional flow and flow adjustment nozzle. No air bubbles water flows counter clockwise. I was wondering if the fish would run into it and thus cause too much dead loss. To be honest I am new to live bait. In two scoops of anchovies for 12.5 hours of fishing and 150 miles of travel how much dead loss would be expected? I was thinking around 20 dead was pretty good but like I said I don't know what to expect.
2007 21' Sea Ranger Hardtop "THE A-TEAM"
150 Evinrude Etec
9.9 Susuki EFI

Offline AJFishin

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2017, 09:03:57 PM »
It's not an airiator nozzle it's a directional flow and flow adjustment nozzle. No air bubbles water flows counter clockwise. I was wondering if the fish would run into it and thus cause too much dead loss. To be honest I am new to live bait. In two scoops of anchovies for 12.5 hours of fishing and 150 miles of travel how much dead loss would be expected? I was thinking around 20 dead was pretty good but like I said I don't know what to expect.


My experience with that nozzle is, it seems when the water comes out it creates a foaming effect with saltwater. Also it has sharp corners that the fish can run into, as some bait fish like to hang out at the bottom. From my understanding, this nozzle is mainly used for aerating water, more so in fresh water set ups.

As for circular flow, it's not needed. Having a circular flow is like putting your bait fish on a treadmill and having them work out before they can work for you to catch fish. Fresh water is what these delicate fish need more of. With your nozzle at the bottom, I would keep it pointed up on down.

I've watched sardines that are weak swimmers get passed on by bass, barracudas, bonitos, etc, but the seagulls enjoy them :jester:

I got a lot of great information when I was making my bait tank and I wanted to pass some of that information along.

But I think you have a really nice set up and having 2 tanks, one on each side, is a plus.
As for your dead loss of 20 is not bad for 12 hours on the water.

« Last Edit: October 10, 2017, 10:25:22 PM by AJFishin »
1996 Arima Sea Chaser 1511

96' Yamaha 70HP - 2 stroke

! Go Kings Go !

Offline FishAddict

Re: Bait tank update
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 09:01:48 PM »
I have my pump throttled down so that the counter clockwise flow is very light yet enough to exchange out the water properly.  It's a compromise between causing too much current and turbulence vs replacing the tank water with fresh.  Don told me the perfect bait tank would have the biggest pump imaginable so the water in the tank would have no impurities and perfect oxygen levels. The disadvantage of too much pump is wearing your bait out or like you said putting them on a treadmill.  Most professionally built tanks that I have seen inflow the water from bottom to top via long slots for even distribution.  I know Sardines are a bit tougher bait than the fragile little chovies we get here in Washington.  If you google Mark Wisch Pacific Edge bait tanks has written many articles on bait tank plumbing and design.
21ft Sea Ranger w/Yamaha F150