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Offline AJFishin

DIY Bait Tank
« on: July 30, 2017, 09:34:56 PM »
Well for the past week, when I got some time, I've been tinkering around with an old cooler trying to turn it into a bait tank.
I wanted to not have to spend the $200 plus for a tank, so I put this together. It's in it's beginning stages and I'm still working out the grimlims.
I went with a transom mount bilge pump, because I do not want to drill a hole in the bottom or transom of my boat. I know on a plain it won't be sucking in water, so I made a work around.
I have a switch that will turn off my raw water pump, to recirculating water, but I still need to get a couple parts so I can have a valve that I can switch from raw water to recirculating.
Right now this is version #1 and I'm still messing around with it and the discharge hose placement. At first I tapped into the Arima's rear hold discharged pipe with a T fitting, worked good, but didn't like the amount of water filling up in the area behind the transom. So now I rerouted the hose over the transom and I'll probably tie the 2 hoses together, unless I come up with another idea.

I'm going to try it out next weekend and see how it goes.

Anyway here's a short clip of what I got now, version 1.0

Any ideas are welcome.

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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2017, 09:42:22 PM »

AJ,

Most bait tanks have a return on the opening. Without the lip under the top, the water will slosh out.

Crude drawing...

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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2017, 10:43:54 PM »
Yeah I noticed that with real bait tanks. Right now the lid off so I can make adjustments without it getting in the way.
Hopefully with the locking lid, it will keep the water in.
Before putting it in the boat, I'm going to fill it up some, put it the back of the truck and see how much water comes out. If to much comes out, I guess I'll breakdown for a real tank.
So far this cost me $30, lol.
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Offline FishAddict

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2017, 08:09:50 AM »
What type of bait are you trying to keep alive?  With my old home made tank/barrel I put a wall up so the bait wouldn't run into the tank while swimming.  Best of luck these projects are fun.
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2017, 10:11:19 AM »
What type of bait are you trying to keep alive?  With my old home made tank/barrel I put a wall up so the bait wouldn't run into the tank while swimming.  Best of luck these projects are fun.

 I'm going to attempt to keep sardines alive.
I like yours and I should have gone with round trash can idea. I have a 20 gallon can and looking back, I think using it would have been better. But if this cooler fails or I just don't like it, I will probably switch over to the can. My coolers downfall is my discharge water can't be gravity feed, which would have been nice for my original idea of having it drain.

As for the corners, I have a 5 gallon bucket that I cut in half and will be placing those halves on the ends of the cooler, to help make sure the bait does not smash into the corners.
Agree, projects are fun to make, especially when you make own stuff, as the process of learning is exciting and that is another reason behind this project.
If it doesn't work I'm only out a few bucks, but if it does work, there is so many positives in it.  :biggrin:
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2017, 10:29:33 AM »
You will learn a lot by making one yourself.

FishAddict is right. There can't be anything for them to bump into.

I always thought they needed a current flowing around the tank. But, the owner of Blue Water Bait Systems told me that there shouldn't be any water movement. They swim in a circle around the tank on their own. He pointed out that they act like a flock of birds, following the leader. They may swim one way, or they may swim the other. He said that too much water movement/turbulence will exhaust them and they will die. He said an 800 gph pump is plenty or water exchange for a 30 gallon tank.

I took his advise and mounted a pipe with holes drilled in it at the top of my tank. (Trying to prevent water movement)  The water comes out of the holes above the water level. The turbulence from the water shooting into the surface of the water causes my sardines to huddle at the bottom of the tank.  :shrug9: .....back to the drawing board.

Guess you can't improve on the design of those fiberglass tanks.  :shrug9:




« Last Edit: July 31, 2017, 10:37:21 AM by Croaker Stroker »
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 12:02:26 PM »
CS,
While looking to do this project I did see something mentioning about what you said with it not being turbulent for the sardines. I did not know about them acting like a flock birds, following the leader, I thought the water needed a circular motion.

But I hear what you're saying, there's so much info out there that will make your head spin on just how the water should come in  :hoboy: I guess the best thing is trial and error.

That is why on my cooler tank I have two different pipes at the top. One would be for water to go through a 90 degree elbow, down to a pipe that would have holes drill into it for the raw water to come out from, along with another elbow at the base. This would, in theory, cut the water pressure going in down, to create less turbulence and to create a weak flow of water circulation.
Or I could set up the other pipe which would be for the water to shoot across or put a 90 degree elbow on it for water to be directed down.
 :shrug9:

And yes I agree with you, I don't think we can improve on the design of those fiberglass tanks, but it's always fun to try  :jester:


Here is what I think I might be making next. Saw this on an old bloody decks post from a member there.

I would make it from my 20 gallon can I have here.





« Last Edit: July 31, 2017, 12:44:41 PM by AJFishin »
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2017, 10:40:01 AM »
Well I just did not like the cooler, so I went with a second design, which I should have gone with in the first place.

Went to Home Depot and picked up this 20 gallon can, since the one I had here was a little too old and weak.
I knocked this out in less then an hour.

Version 2.0:
20 gallon Brute trash can, with a 5 gallon bucket in the center, cut in half.
Later today I'm going to get some rubber stripping to lay around the top of the can, between the can and the lid, to help prevent water from coming out, or at lease help some.

I tested it out and works way better than my cooler. I'm not 100% done yet, as I'm going to set it up for recirculation when the boat is moving.
But here is what I have now.







« Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 10:58:18 AM by AJFishin »
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Offline Threeweight

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2017, 11:31:22 AM »
Is your aerated water coming in from the bottom?

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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2017, 12:09:42 PM »
Is your aerated water coming in from the bottom?

The pump at the bottom will suck water out to the ocean.  Right now, I don't have the aerator (recirculating) pipe attached at the top, because I ran out of time this morning, but it will go to the side of the raw water output pipe.

My plan is, once I'm underway, I will switch it to become an aerator to recirculate the water till I get to another fishing spot, which is usually not a long distance. Then once I'm at the new spot, I will switch it back to raw water that will come from the top once again.

Here's a really crude drawing I made up.  :jester:



 
« Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 01:25:44 PM by AJFishin »
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Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2017, 01:55:13 PM »
I recommend you put both pumps on one switch OR you are going to have water flowing into the boat   :bigshock: and wondering why  :shrug9:  until you remember to turn on the discharge pump...   :doh:   

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Offline Threeweight

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2017, 02:24:05 PM »
I would stick with one pump for getting freshwater to the bait, mounted on the transom low enough that it can pull raw water both when the boat is in motion and at rest.    Check out Secret Spot's install:

http://www.arimaowners.com/index.php?topic=4685.0



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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2017, 02:58:58 PM »

You need a pump mounted to the transom like Secret Spot. A swimming pool vacuum hose will work for the outflow.
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2017, 03:15:28 PM »
I went out to dig around the garage. I found one of the outtake fittings from one of my tanks. This actually works better than the store-bought ones because the holes are just large enough to pass sardine scales without getting clogged up.

These are common fittings.

If you are ever in the area, stop buy. I have some bits and pieces you might be able to use. Free if you need them.

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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2017, 04:53:33 PM »
Thank you all for the advice on this, as I am about as green as can be when it comes to this.

CS, thank you for offer and the advice on a better outake fitting.

I looked at "Secret Spots" set up, which I like and is almost identical to mine, once it is all in place. The difference being, my hose from my transom bilge pump goes through the rubber boot on the side, which would be for the kicker hoses, if I had a kicker.
Currently, my discharge water hose will come up and over the motor well, then the hose would be tied to the raw water intake hose, over the transom.

Since going from the cooler now to the can, it seems I have a little more options to make it better and or easier.

But I still want to avoid cutting holes in my boat if I don't have to.
Another concern is the discharge water NOT being able to make it up and over the motor well. (one reason for using the pump at the base of the tank.)

My original idea was to have the discharge water leave the tank, from the top, down and out a hose that would be plumbed into the rear hold tank, which drains into the motor well. But the amount of water pouring into the motor well, because of the pump, was to much for my comfort.

The picture below is what I had earlier and maybe it's still viable without using the pump and just using gravity do it's trick, hopefully. But I'm not sure if the height of the top drain hole in the bait tank will be high enough to drain down and out?



I'm leaning towards doing the same set up as Secret spot, if I can get the overflow to drain properly.

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Below are my ideas & thoughts on my current set up from what I read online.

Reason for the transom mounted bilge pump to be on a switch.

Again I read this online from a few different forums and some manfactures of tanks.

Water is unable to be picked up from a transom mounted pump while the boat is on plane and moving fast. A transom mounted pump will not suck up enough water to replaced the water that is coming out. As for sardines if there is no fresh water & the water is not replaced about every 5 minutes, you could have die off. Recirculating the water till fresh water is added is recommended.

With that thought I added a switch.
The switch would allow me to cut power to the transom mounted bilge pump, then I would turn a switch on my "Y" connector to allow the aerator pump to start recirculating the water, as this would buy time in between moving from spot to spot. Once I got to the fishing grounds, then I would be able to switch back to allow fresh water back in the tank.

The water discharge pump is not on a switch, only the raw water bilge pump is.


Sorry for this super long post, but I figure I would outline some of my thoughts and see what you think.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 10:58:26 PM by AJFishin »
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2017, 10:50:08 PM »
The Rule transom mount pump (like Secret Spot) is designed to pick up water while on plane. In fact, it will pick up water on plane even when it is off.

I ran my discharge through the same rubber boot you mentioned. For a long time, I just removed the port side panel and ran the "swimming pool" hose through. Now, I have cut a slot in my panel so I can remove the panel without disconnecting the discharge hose.

http://www.basspro.com/shop/en/easy-release-transom-bracket-for-baitwell-pumps

« Last Edit: August 01, 2017, 11:06:41 PM by Croaker Stroker »
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2017, 11:09:29 PM »
That's good to hear about the Rule transom mount pump. Currently mine is set about a 1/4" above the bottom of the boat, which I don't think should be an issue. :shrug9:
I'm going to mess around with it tomorrow and see what happens.
This weekend I'll be heading out with a buddy of mine and I'm going to leave the tank in it's current condition, with the exception of adding a drain hole near the top.
I'll bring some fittings with me just in case.  :jester:
Hope all will work.
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Offline Threeweight

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2017, 11:27:55 PM »
Above the bottom and it prob won't pick up water when on plane.  On plane, the butt of the boat is on top of the water.  I'd angle it slightly so it sits just below the bottom of the hull, like a stern mount transducer.

Same principle as the transducer, actually... both need access to "clean" water that isn't agitated by the prop and disturbance of the boat moving through the water.
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2017, 12:43:16 AM »
... Notice the pump size recommendations at the bottom of the card....

« Last Edit: August 02, 2017, 12:23:18 PM by Croaker Stroker »
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2017, 11:10:14 AM »
CS thank you for the instructions on the mount.

Here is version 2.0

Currently I'm going to try out this way first when I'm on the water, but it can be easily be switched for a gravity fed water discharge, something I will also try out on the water as well.
So far it works well.

In the video you can see I'm using the bucket of water so the bilge pump can suck water up and the PVC pipe is extended so it can put water back into the bucket for testing.
The aerator will be switched on when moving to a different spot so the water can be recirculating when the boat is on a plane.
I will also be testing out the pump while on a plane, with a gravity feed to see how well it works.



« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 11:15:22 AM by AJFishin »
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Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2017, 11:20:38 AM »
Aeration of the water is critical.  A bucket full of crab will suffocate in about 20 minutes unless water is aerated or changed...  Your bait will need a constant supply of fresh water or a constant aeration system...

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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2017, 09:38:24 AM »
Thank you for the advice Streamfixer.
Yes the bucket will have fresh water flowing 95% of the time. Then when I need to, I can turn the switch to recirculating.
We'll see how it works tomorrow, I just hope the fish are hungry down here since it has been quite.
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2017, 01:51:38 PM »
Tested out my bait tank today and it worked good. But I did do some modifications to it while on the water .
First, the recirculating water with sardines is a disaster. Looks like was making a bubble bath within 5 minutes of adding them to the well. I turned it off and sucked out the water and put fresh back it.
Second like CS said, the screen sucks. It was a clog-fest of scales.
My Y attachment got clogged with scales and cut the water flow.S o I ditched that and ran a straight hose. Problem fixed, somewhat.

Version 2.5  :jester:
I will be making a bigger drain hole at the top of the well to run water out of it better and not to get any clogs.
The bottom drain will be used to get water out faster when I need to.
But that's all I need to do to it.
The rubber seal at the top, the hole in the middle of the lid with the half bucket, and the fresh water coming in worked great.
Out of the 2 scoops of sardines I got, half died and that was from the bad choice of recirculating the water in the beginning. After fixing that problem the fish stayed alive.
Downside was, the fishing sucked today, but there's always next time.
Thank you for your advice as it was fun to do this experiment, but one thing I learned, and I think CS said, ,Guess you can't improve on the design of those fiberglass tanks.   :jester:
Basically you can't reinvent the wheel. :beerchug:
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2017, 05:29:24 PM »
Well, even though the fishing sucked, sounds like you had fun playing with your new toy.   :beerchug:
« Last Edit: August 06, 2017, 05:35:50 PM by Croaker Stroker »
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2017, 09:50:52 AM »
Well, even though the fishing sucked, sounds like you had fun playing with your new toy.   :beerchug:

That's funny you say that because I did play with the bait tank more than I fished :jester: My friend did most of the fishing, luckily he caught some fish.
We went to Horseshoe and Izors and both were very inactive.
Got back to the ramp at Davie's and talk to 2 other boats with a nice amount of Calicos, Sheep heads, and perch, all were caught at the Wall.
Seems like the wall is the place to be now, strange year this year with fishing.
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Offline Threeweight

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2017, 10:37:25 AM »
Nice!

I am still contemplating building one for my boat.  We are having a very weird Tuna! year here so far... north winds keep kicking up and pushing the temp breaks and blue water waaaaaaay of shore.  put 160 miles on the tin can Saturday, went out to the 125 10 out of Newport, and ended the day with 0 tuna.  Hard to get motivated to build a live bait tank!
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2017, 10:47:39 AM »
3WT,

You are better off spending the big bucks on a proven fiberglass tank. Your bait will stay alive all day. If you are spending all that money on a new boat, new rods and reels and gas to get out to the fishing grounds, you might as well spend another thousand so you will have lively bait when you get there.   :shrug9: :beerchug: :twocents:

disclaimer...
I don't take my own advise. I'd rather spend your money.  :shrug9:  :jester:
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Offline Threeweight

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2017, 10:58:14 AM »
The thing is we don't have access to live bait in the ports I typically fish.  I'd just be using it once or twice a year when I trailer up to WA. 
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2017, 11:18:59 AM »
Yes. I get what you are saying.  I use my bait tank every time out. Yet, because of the occasional harbor cruise with my wife and grandkids, I didn't want a permanently mounted fiberglass tank. So, I have been using the same plastic tank for years now. I know my bait doesn't last as long as others....I have proven that by side to side comparison. But, it stays alive as long as I want to fish.

Pacific Edge also makes the light weight HDPE tanks ...and you can buy Other brands online or at Westmarine. I just strap mine to the motor well. It stays put.

If you are making one yourself, just look closely at the ones at Westmarine and copy what you see.  :beerchug:
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2017, 12:33:27 PM »
Mine worked, but I have no idea how great it would be for a long distance run. I think if I plumbed it right the first time, it would have worked better, but that's just my thoughts. As mine friend put it, it was a $30 experiment, (the cost of a 1/2 scoop of sardines) :jester:
I did see about 4 boats with a trash can set up. It's funny because it's like getting a new truck. You don't see anyone with one, till you get one :jester:

Like I said, I think having the pump running at the bottom was not the greatest idea as the screen kept getting clogged with scales, I think CS pointed that out earlier. But I ended up taking off the screen and running a straight pipe, which worked when a sardine didn't get stuck in it.
For this reason, I will end up making a screen by drilling some holes in a 3/4" PVC cap and placing it on the pumps pipe, BUT I will only be using the bottom pump when I really need to.
I will be adding a larger diameter hole at the top to allow water to drain out by gravity, which I will do a backyard trial followed by a sea trial, to see just how much water will leave when it is plumbed in using my original way versus having a hose hang over the motor well.
But I think for my small can, the height of the cans' top drain hole, versus the height of the motor well might be an issue for draining. I believe a taller can would work better, but my space is limited.

I wish I would have thought of taking some pictures of it yesterday, but I played to much with it to think of taking any pictures :doh:



Things I suggest doing and or using, IF you did something like this,  as my set up for this was simple..

I bought some 3M rubber door seal (hollow weatherstripping) size 10X8mm that I glued on the rim of the can. The adhesive that was on it wasn't the strongest, so I used some fast drying epoxy on the rubber and the seal stayed in place and no water leak.

Cut out a hole in the lid and then cut a 5 gallon bucket in half, your desired length, and set in the lid's hole. I cut the hole just small enough that the bucket slid in very tight, no water leak. The I put 2 small screws on the opposite end of the handles to hold the lid flat.

I already had this, but they worked great! Black rubber mat  from Home Depot $25 (TrafficMASTER - Black 36 in. x 36 in. Rubber Anti-Fatigue Comfort Mat)
Then I had 1 ratchet tie around the can and locked into place around my rod holders. The tank didn't move at all and I hit some decent size wakes, wind chop, the boat was rocking in the seas, and the mats helped kept it in place.

Like CS said, think twice about this DIY set up. It worked for me, a weekender, but not sure how great for a long trip. But it is fun to mess around with.  :beerchug:
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 06:31:35 PM by AJFishin »
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2017, 06:43:11 PM »
UPDATED 9/23/2017

Friday I did a modification to my 20 gallon Brute trash can bait tank and today I took out and tried it.

I added a 1-1/4" overflow drain to it and I copied how Secret Spot ran his hose through the splash well using a hatch cover that I also installed. I bought a 1-1/4" Sump Pump Discharge Hose Kit from Home Depot for $12 as this would be used for my overflow drain. The kit it came with 2 "thru hulls" and A LOT of hose.

I then drill a 2" hole with a hole saw through the Starboard and then ran the hose though my hatch cover, easy cheesey.

My water nozzle is directed down and actually sprays on the side of the tank, not creating a circular flow. To maintained a desired water level and water flow, I installed a ball valve. Then I used, what looks like gill net as screen over the drain  :whistle:


Below are a couple videos; 1 of me testing the new set up in my yard and the 2nd was on the ocean with live bait.



I have to say, FINALLY this diy trash can bait tank worked, and it worked GREAT! :party: I got a half scoop today and after 6 hours on the water, only one sardine, out of all of them, was 50% alive, but not dead though. :dance: :jester:

The sardines stayed active and ready to do work!

I was a little worried that the new set up would be just a repeat of my last few times out with it, but that wasn't the case today and hopefully this will continue, knock on wood. :jester:

TEST VIDEO


My set up:




WORKING ON THE WATER



'96 Sea Chaser 1511 - Yamaha 70HP - 2 smoke

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Offline Qwakwak

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2017, 07:41:00 AM »
Seem like you're going to a lot of effort to create a live well tank. I bought a 10.5 gal bucket with a snap on lid from amazon. Cut the center of the lid out so there is a lip to stop water splashing out. Installed a transom mounted pump and an overflow line. Works great and holds about 50 anchovies with no problem. Total cost - about $60. Total install time - about 2 hrs.
Since 1958- 15' cracker box, '59 Performer, 18' Fiberform/90 merc, Sanger super jet/454 chev, 17' Seaswirl I/0, 20' Hydrosport/200 mariner, Grand Banks 36, 15' Proline, 19' Sea Ray,18' sloop, whaler/115 yamaha.
Now-1989 Arima Sea Ranger 17/90 merc
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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2017, 09:46:18 AM »
Qwakwak, Sounds like you made a great little inexpensive bait tank. You should post some pictures of your set up for those that want to make a smaller, inexpensive working bait tank.

As for me, it may seem like I put a lot effort in, but not really.  I originally had an idea on how I wanted my set up and I had to try it to see if it would work.
Unfortunately it didn't work out exactly the way I wanted, but I ended up with a good little bait tank.
I already had a lot of the parts on hand, so my costs stayed low and I took my time to get it where I like, while incorporating some of my original idea.
Total money spent $50 and the time I spent doing it, didn't matter, as I enjoyed making it.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2017, 09:49:41 AM by AJFishin »
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Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2017, 12:30:08 PM »
AJ

Your DIY projects seem to run about like mine do.  Save a couple of bucks???  great, but the enjoyment of making an idea come together (eventually) priceless.   :clap:

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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2017, 01:03:05 PM »
I think you’ve got it !!!    :clap: :beerchug: :party:


SF, you are so right.
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15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

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Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2017, 02:49:43 PM »
SF you hit the nail on the head  :jester:

Thanks CS, I think it's dialed in now :party:
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2017, 09:10:29 PM »
AJ,

This is all your fault !! Look what you made me do !

I just pulled the trigger on a new BlueWater tank.

https://issuu.com/studiokproductions/docs/bluewater_bait_systems_final


« Last Edit: November 15, 2017, 12:07:32 AM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2017, 07:40:06 AM »
Looks nice. How big is it? Are you able to plug in your existing plumbing?
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2017, 05:18:37 PM »
Looks nice. How big is it? Are you able to plug in your existing plumbing?

It’s 38 gallons. I have to move it forward as far as possible. Still have not decided how I am going to mount and plumb it. I would like to not drill any huge holes in the fishbox lid. I am thinking of straddling the fishbox. I might fill the openings on either side of the tank with Starboard.....just that the Starboard will be slippery.  :beerchug:
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2017, 08:08:27 PM »
Nice upgrade. I'm very interested in how you set it up and how far forward you go with it. Keep us in the loop!
17' Arima SC with 2017 90hp Yamaha
21' Kiwanda Klipper Dory with 90 HP Honda
18' Hewescraft Sportsman -Sold, 22' Bayrunner Cuddy - Sold
17' North River Revenge - Sold, 17' Whaler Montauk - Sold
24' Skipjack FB - Sold,  18' Seacraft CC - Sold

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2017, 10:24:11 PM »

👍🏻
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Online GregE

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2017, 10:43:40 PM »
Big tank for a 17??  make some templates to help locate it.  Could be a challenge to get the drain to flow overboard.

this will be fun to watch-  keep the pictures coming....
Greg
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2017, 10:56:12 AM »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline AJFishin

Re: DIY Bait Tank
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2017, 06:37:24 PM »
AJ,

This is all your fault !! Look what you made me do !

I just pulled the trigger on a new BlueWater tank.

https://issuu.com/studiokproductions/docs/bluewater_bait_systems_final

 :jester: :jester: glad I could be of assistance :biggrin:
That's a nice looking tank 👍🏻
'96 Sea Chaser 1511 - Yamaha 70HP - 2 smoke

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