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Offline Croaker Stroker

« Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 10:56:05 AM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2017, 12:08:46 PM »
I'm pretty sure that's much better pricing than the Smart Rails.  And you have followed procedure for a successful install.  I think you're going to love them!
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2017, 12:20:20 PM »
Buying them directly from the extruder (Barbour) saves $$ in mark-ups and multiple shipment cost.


Remember...****THEY HAVE TO BE HEATED****
« Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 12:26:27 PM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2017, 12:43:12 PM »
The MarineTex matches the PVC pretty good. MarineTex always requires filling twice....fill,  24 hour cure, sand, re-fill(shrinks), 24 hour cure, re-sand,  polish.

Sorry for the pics. I can't get far enough away to see what it actually looks like.  :shrug9:

Notice the extrusion radius is not perfect.  Tooling ? Shrinkage ?
« Last Edit: May 26, 2017, 01:11:33 PM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2017, 08:57:30 PM »
I always blame it on shrinkage.
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2017, 09:02:47 PM »

Yes. Me too. When I'm cold.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2017, 09:09:40 PM »
Water is the worst.
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2017, 10:26:24 PM »

🤦🏻‍♀️
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2017, 05:35:28 PM »
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1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Rokefin

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2017, 07:59:50 PM »
Looks great!  Will you drive up north and do mine? I'm low on spare time..
1989 17ft Arima Sea Chaser 2010 115 Yamaha 1995 9.9 Yamaha kicker - Bodega mostly

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2017, 10:00:35 PM »
Sweet job!  Looks really well done, Croaker. 
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Wiley

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2017, 11:14:57 AM »
Awaiting sea trials and observations  :shrug9:
86 c Dory 22’ new 90 hp etec
96 sea explorer 15'-11" new 90 etec named (wutz wuzn cuzn)
10' Don Hill Pram
 Respectfully, Build, Buy, Be American

Offline Rokefin

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2017, 08:31:37 AM »
Croaker - coffee is getting cold - still waiting for you.

Me too busy
1989 17ft Arima Sea Chaser 2010 115 Yamaha 1995 9.9 Yamaha kicker - Bodega mostly

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2017, 10:26:16 AM »


Sorry, Haven't had a chance to get her out yet.... maybe next week.  I also lost both of my boat Hos....Sam and Danno both got new boats.
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Rokefin

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2017, 07:24:15 AM »
Croaker
After you preset the rails and when you removed them to attach for the final time, did the rails stay formed to the boat or did they want to open back up?

Why did you decide to go with 5 screws?

I was looking over your rail project again - really a clean job!
1989 17ft Arima Sea Chaser 2010 115 Yamaha 1995 9.9 Yamaha kicker - Bodega mostly

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2017, 11:04:59 AM »
They kept their shape, but I still had to force them to fit even after I pre-bent them.

If you notice, our boats have a "compound arch" along the "knuckle"  (Yat, I used your word). I was able to prebend the molding horizontally, but the molding needs to bend vertically at the bow as well. I had to force this bend and hold it down with the screws. (Starting at the stern) Taco Marine recommends screws every 6".

I think it is important to "dry fit" the molding prior to using adhesive. I don't know how you could do that without using screws.

I decided to go with 5 screws because I did not want to see the countersink holes 6" apart. Had I known that the MarineTex would come out looking so nice, I probably would have drilled for more screws.  Also, I talked with a guy at Taco who only used VHB tape and 5200, so I felt the 5200 would stay stuck with, or without screws once it sets up.


« Last Edit: June 08, 2017, 12:07:22 AM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2017, 04:25:17 PM »
We went to Dana Point for our anniversary. My wife wanted to take the boat because she wanted to see if the spray rails worked or not. We stayed in the Blue Lantern Inn for the night and got up to launch for the test run. I had Duct Taped my GoPro on the end of a broomstick so I could get a shot of the spray rails deflecting the waves. Off we went for the sea trial...

Anyway, the Spray Rails worked great. We went out a few miles and hit some nice wakes from larger boats....no water spraying over the bow.

Funny my wife was so excited about the spray rails....haha. 

Then, she got really excited when I located this big, friendly, Mola Mola. I think he thought the Arima was another really large Female Mola Mola because he kept circling and winking his eye.   :jester:
« Last Edit: June 14, 2017, 06:22:00 PM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2017, 04:57:49 PM »
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1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2017, 05:45:34 PM »
Great!  They work!
2002 Sea Ranger HT 21, Yamaha 150, Yamaha 9.9

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2017, 06:18:13 PM »
Great!  They work!


Better than I expected.  :clap:
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Rokefin

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2017, 09:57:48 PM »
Thumbs up - mine should show up tomorrow...

I'll have a set of the Barbour 5 footers for sale when I am done with the project this weekend.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2017, 10:12:05 PM by Rokefin »
1989 17ft Arima Sea Chaser 2010 115 Yamaha 1995 9.9 Yamaha kicker - Bodega mostly

Offline Tj805

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2017, 08:52:15 AM »
Glad to hear they actually work
Might have to get a set
Tired of my face getting all wet at 6 In the morning.
2000 sea chaser 19
Honda 130
2014 yamaha f8

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2017, 09:19:17 AM »
I found this online regarding heating with a torpedo heater.  Some of you guys up North may have them sitting in your garage ??

He is heating/bending PVC window molding....

"Just lay a piece of masonry siding in the duct pipe.
 lay trim flat on the siding and point the heater in one end. Using a meat thermometer through a hole on top
heat until 250degrees or until crust is brown and flaky. have template ready."


(Disregard the crust humorous comment)

I would try 200 degrees first. JIC
« Last Edit: June 15, 2017, 02:14:50 PM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2017, 11:15:35 AM »
Short Movie...

« Last Edit: June 15, 2017, 02:13:34 PM by Croaker Stroker »
1987 - 17' Sea Pacer - 2004 Evinrude 90 E-tec
15' Sea Sprinter - **SOLD**

"If a fish will, he will… if he won't, he won't… and that's about it… except… he may take this when he won't take that."

Online Yachter Yat

Re: Spray rails --- Barbour plastics
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2017, 05:30:21 AM »
   Croaker, great clip.  Love those smiles. What a beautiful day.  Looks like those rails do the trick on those earlier hulls, eh?   I was thinking, if Arima ever makes some modifications to their hulls, it might be smart for them to consider widening that secondary knuckle just a bit more. 

Have fun,  Yat

Dear Arima:  Please "square-off" the Hunter transom. Next, stretch the Explorer by 9 and steal 2 or 3 from the cabin.  Please hurry, I'm getting old.

16 SC/Honda 60