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Offline wedocq

Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« on: January 22, 2017, 05:08:32 PM »
Greg was asking today about a lead pour. Bruce has hosted the last 2 years and has said he's out this year for hosting. Anyone out there interested in hosting? It might be cool if we found a location somewhere near Centralia, WA and that would make the drive from the coast, or Portland a little more doable. Of course that's just an idea. If you are willing to host, we can make it work anywhere!

Molds I have:
Flutter vertical jigs 2 oz, 3 oz, 4 oz, 5oz, 7 oz, 9oz  I have used a single treble, single J hook, or double assist hooks on these effectively.

Bullet nose jig molds that use swim baits. 4oz and 5 oz

Triangle head (forget name) for swim baits. 2ox and 4 oz (I think)

Cannon balls:
For halibut weights: 20oz 24 oz 32 oz
For Columbia river trolling: I need to look again, but I think 12 14 and 16oz

Downrigger ball mold: 15 lbs

Crown Jewel from last year! Norwegian Cod jig mold. I think the weights are 18 24 and 32oz  This mold was paid for by everyone that showed up last year! Thanks guys

I might be missing a few, I will post when I take inventory.

What do you got? Anyone interested???

-Shawn



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WEDOCQ= WE DO SEKIU! It pays homage to my Uncle Jay who died of cancer.

Offline GregE

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 10:29:20 AM »
Yes I'm going-  but no space to host and I'm out of the way on a ridge.

I ordered ( 1 ea ) 2 and 3# flat sided bottom weight Hilts molds that I will bring.

http://hiltsmolds.com/RockCodSinkerMolds.htm


We need to capture some of the safety concerns discussion and get everyone who will attend on board .

Also, some brought clean, ingot lead that weren't paid for it, so better check in / check out procedures should be set up.  It's a good opportunity with some great folks attending-  we don't want to sour things for some.

Pretty good info in this
http://hiltsmolds.com/MoldInstructions.htm


« Last Edit: January 23, 2017, 10:37:08 AM by GregE »
Greg
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 08:50:29 PM »
Alrighty then!
It looks like I am hosting it.  :doh: Lets all figure out who's coming, and what day looks like it will work.

Anybody got a good lead source this year?

Anybody got some lead molds they can bring?

-Shawn
2002 21' Arima Sea Ranger HT  Suzuki DF175 4-stroke.
WEDOCQ= WE DO SEKIU! It pays homage to my Uncle Jay who died of cancer.

Offline Markshoreline

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 09:59:51 PM »
I've got some if I can recover them from the buddy I loaned them to.
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Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2017, 07:27:16 PM »
So the lead pour is in Puyallup then?
I didn't see the dates...
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2017, 07:42:01 PM »
So the lead pour is in Puyallup then?
I didn't see the dates...

We are still in the primary stages of planning.  I am planning a date. Not dates.  :biggrin:  I am fishing the Peninsula Salmon Derby Feb 17th-19th, So those dates are for sure out. Anyone got dates to suggest?

-Shawn
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2017, 10:33:08 PM »
If you're going to host  it choose the time that works best for you!
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2017, 07:24:27 AM »
If you're going to host  it choose the time that works best for you!

Sounds good. Bruce and I will be pouring lead today around 4. You're welcome to join us.  :biggrin: :whistle:

-Shawn
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Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2017, 09:52:24 AM »
So the lead pour is in Puyallup then?
I didn't see the dates...

We are still in the primary stages of planning.  I am planning a date. Not dates.  :biggrin:  I am fishing the Peninsula Salmon Derby Feb 17th-19th, So those dates are for sure out. Anyone got dates to suggest?

-Shawn


Shawn...I'm hoping to provide adequate competition for you on those dates.
But....I need to find another body to go along.
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2017, 12:18:36 PM »
If you're going to host  it choose the time that works best for you!

Sounds good. Bruce and I will be pouring lead today around 4. You're welcome to join us.  :biggrin: :whistle:

-Shawn

I was just kidding!

Still open for date suggestions!
-Shawn
« Last Edit: January 25, 2017, 12:23:18 PM by wedocq »
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2017, 12:22:00 PM »
But....I need to find another body to go along.

Are you referring to the lead pour, or the fishing derby? Trust me, the lead pour is well worth coming by yourself! Just for the downrigger balls along, its worth it. But we have a lot of other molds that can make some pretty cool things!
-Shawn
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Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2017, 02:01:35 PM »
But....I need to find another body to go along.

Are you referring to the lead pour, or the fishing derby? Trust me, the lead pour is well worth coming by yourself! Just for the downrigger balls along, its worth it. But we have a lot of other molds that can make some pretty cool things!
-Shawn

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Offline rasslingref

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2017, 02:52:43 PM »
Count 2 red heads in.......I'm looking for lead now.
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Offline GregE

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2017, 03:32:27 PM »

    
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Offline Diablo

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2017, 03:43:18 PM »
Alrighty then!
It looks like I am hosting it.  :doh: Lets all figure out who's coming, and what day looks like it will work.

Anybody got a good lead source this year?

Anybody got some lead molds they can bring?

-Shawn

Your funny Shawn. You ask if anyone would want to do a lead pour and get ONE response and its on.  :beerchug:
Good for you, I'm in and thanks for hosting.
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Offline Markshoreline

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2017, 06:53:31 PM »
Yes, thank Shawn!
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2017, 02:13:02 PM »
Well that's because I already knew Lingripper Greg Bruce2fish and James would most likely be coming over regardless...haha
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Offline Rjr812

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2017, 08:37:27 AM »
Shawn,  count me in for the pour.  Just need to know when and where.
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2017, 09:07:30 PM »
Still looking for date suggestions! I am out Presidents day weekend. Other than that, I am pretty open.
-Shawn
2002 21' Arima Sea Ranger HT  Suzuki DF175 4-stroke.
WEDOCQ= WE DO SEKIU! It pays homage to my Uncle Jay who died of cancer.

Offline BruceL2_Fish

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2017, 06:48:25 AM »
I suggest 2/25. 
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 11:40:40 AM »
I suggest 2/25.

Ok, 2/25. Any objections?
2002 21' Arima Sea Ranger HT  Suzuki DF175 4-stroke.
WEDOCQ= WE DO SEKIU! It pays homage to my Uncle Jay who died of cancer.

Offline GregE

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 11:44:43 AM »
Got it.
We'll never meet everyone's best date- but this gives a month to plan.

Now you can start working on some nice weather and we'll be cleaning up some lead to bring.

NO dirty lead folks.
Greg
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Offline wedocq

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2017, 07:37:34 AM »
I got to change the date!

I have an important Union function I can't miss that day. What does everyone think of March 4th?
-Shawn
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WEDOCQ= WE DO SEKIU! It pays homage to my Uncle Jay who died of cancer.

Offline rasslingref

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2017, 10:12:24 AM »
March 4th would work for us.  I still haven't been able to locate any good lead, except what is still on my jacket from a couple years ago.
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Offline BruceL2_Fish

Re: Any interest in a Lead pour this year?
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2017, 10:45:24 AM »
4th works for me. 
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