Hi everyone. I'm a new member. Thanks for having me. Just bought a 16 ft. Arima Sea Chaser last summer and thought it would be a great idea to be able to discuss boats with likeminded people. Mine came with a 45 hp Honda and with two of us and gear we can cruise around 25 mph. Just wondered if anyone had a 45 or 50 on the same model and have upgraded to a 60 or bigger because of power issues. Thanks
Welcome to the page Fanny.
Thank you
FM
I bought my 16 SC with Honda 60. I would not want anything less. You will really enjoy the forum, welcome
Hi Fanny Bay; Welcome. I ran my 16 SC for over 20 years with a Honda 45. Bought it new. I'm running the 60 Honda now, but can't say a single bad thing about that 45. It was 100% dependable and (from what I've been told) is still running today. I always managed a few MPH more than you posted, but was generally lightly loaded with just the wife and myself on board.
If you ever have the occasion to upgrade, I would strongly suggest that Honda 60. That motor makes this hull feel quite light on it's feet. Sometimes it feels like I'm on plane before the throttle has even reached it's forward stop. (ha)
Best of luck with your Arima. I'm sure I speak for all by saying we look forward to hearing from you often.
All the best, Yat
Glad you joined in and posted.....
Now, where are the pictures?!?!? :arms:
Welcome Aboard!
Welcome, is that Fanny Bay Vancouver Island?
Welcome to the group. Lot's of experience and good advise to draw on from the group.
Welcome to the group...first thing to know... we are "experts" at helping you spend your money! Second thing to know is that we have a great time sharing our thoughts on topics. There will often be several different right answers to any question you ask.
About your motor size....
The general consensus is that a 16 foot Arima has a maximum motor size limit of 70hp (for 4 stroke motors). The coast guard tag will say up to 100hp, but weight considerations will keep most peoples choices to a 70hp max. The two favorite motors in that range are the Honda BF60 and the Yamaha F70.
Most 16ft Arimas were outfitted with 50hp and 45hp motors from the factory. There are many 16ft Arimas that had other size motors, but they were usually two stroke motors. The 45 and 50 are fantastic motors for a 16ft Arima. They get you around nearly as well as a larger motor would.
The top speed with a 45 or 50 will be in the mid twenties. The top speed with a larger motor will be around 30 mph. You will be most comfortable cruising at 22-25 mph. Most of us cruise around from 20-25mph. Your 45 will do that. The 25-30mph range is for flat, flat water and travelling distances on calmer seas. In rough water my 16ft Sea Chaser stays well under 20mph. These boats do not have enough of a deep v to cut through big waves. They tend to pound you at speed in rough seas.
So my thought is that there is no panic to replace your 45 as long as it is running reliably. It will give you what you need to get around in a 16ft. When you decide its time to replace...you can do the upgrade if the budget allows.
Enjoy the forum...
(I started out with a Honda 50 and upgraded to a Yamaha F70. The 50 was a great motor)
58Johnson, I'm curious what's your top speed with the F70 on flat water, light load, and you only in the boat?
Dv,
Top speed is 30-31mph dead calm, fresh water, light load. I rarely run that fast. Maximum normal top speed is 27mph. Cruise speed is 23mph or so.
I'LL BE BAAAK! That's right! Now that my Honda 60 is sufficiently broken-in, I'm going to do some speed tests this season. Judging by a few full throttle "scoots" I did last year, I think you're going to be very surprised at how fast this thing really is. So..."I'll be baaack" to post on this one. :biggrin:
Yat
With my Honda BFP60 I'm getting top speed of about 30 mph +/- with a light load. Cruise at 23 mph at 4500 rpm, and 26 mph at 5000 rpm
Interesting. Feels like mine wants to run faster :shrug9: We shall see.
Yat
GPS speed, no cheating Yat :biggrin:
Do I look like the kind of guy who would ever cheat? Oh wait......how could I be so stupid. :doh: You've never seen me. Okay, I know I'm opening myself up here, but let me tell you: I'm kind of a cross between Pat Boone and Roger Moore. :jester: All I know is; my wife says she loves me. :jester:
Yat
Ok, I get the picture. Then, and now :jester: :smile1: :wink:
(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/9220-110218132448-10834193.jpeg)
(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/9220-110218132447-108332211.jpeg)
Alright.........I concede. Somewhere between the "then" and the "now"...........without the tattoos. :jester: And yes, I still have hair on my head. :jester:
Yat
Please do post your top speed and cruise numbers when you get a chance. I'd be curious to see between the BF60 and the BFP60. Theoretically your right, yours should have a bit more top end speed. Hope that snow melts soon
Fanny Bay Welcome to the forum!
How are the oysters up there?
Thanks for your responses, fellow Arima owners. It gives me a measure of comfort to know the 45 Honda will do the job for now. By the way, Fanny Bay is on the east coast of Vancouver Island and is known for its oysters. On another topic, I'm just in the process of setting up for fishing with a pair of Scotty downriggers. Any recommendations on placement of the downriggers? Thanks, FBF
Welcome fisher. I'm up in Courtenay. I launch at Union Bay.
See pic for downrigger location.....
John
I agree with John, if/when I get downriggers I would put them in that same spot :yeahthat:
:yeahthat: mid mount lets you reach the bait and release more easily
Put a prop guard on the kicker
Quote from: GregE on February 18, 2018, 07:43:33 PM
Put a prop guard on the kicker
Something I've been meaning to add. Any recommendations?
Been looking at a Mac's Troll Prop Saver:
http://propsavers.com/troll-prop-saver/
Quote from: Mooch on February 18, 2018, 10:15:44 PM
Quote from: GregE on February 18, 2018, 07:43:33 PM
Put a prop guard on the kicker
Something I've been meaning to add. Any recommendations?
Been looking at a Mac's Troll Prop Saver:
http://propsavers.com/troll-prop-saver/
I personally never seen the need for one as I usually operate in water deep enough to stay out of weeds and I have never had an issue with lines getting caught when trolling. I can see how it would be helpful though.
There is a thread on how to make your own in tips and tricks.I made mine at a cost of 30 bucks works great.
Weeds aren't the issue
Kicker prop guard is needed more when the DR mounts are forward like those pictured. When things get busy its easy to get the cable angle under the stern. My last prop repair was $140
I successfully made on from 2" aluminum strip I picked up at Home Depot years ago. You will need to brace it from the kicker skeg and make sure there is plenty of room between prop blade and guard. Way less than $30. You will need to find a shop that handles sheet metal to roll the diameter for you. They usually do it for free around here.
I had a 3 blade high thrust prop the 'just' cleared the guard. A small stick got stuck between the prop and guard resulting in a spun hub ($70 +/-). Replaced 3 blade with 4 blade and now have plenty of clearance and never had a problem with debris in the water since.
StreamFixer
What prompted this was I fouled the kicker last time i was out on my other boat hugging the bottom at 140'. Fortunately, the wire did not wrap and i was able to funally free it, but only after precariously leaning over my kicker while drifting a bumpy rip seam. Since then I switched to the starboard rigger, but i much prefer to fish off port side when fishing solo. I also prefer to never foul my kicker again, as my butt's still puckered. Hoping a prop guard will do the trick. Sorry to hijack OP thread. Appreciate the tip SF. Welcome aboard Fanny Bay. Stay safe out there los amigos.
Fanny Bay, welcome to the forum. I'm sure others will chime in but what kind of prop do you have? Different fins, pitch and so on will make your top speed higher or lower as well as your time to get up on plane. Maybe look into that first as it's much cheaper to buy a different prop than it is a different engine.
Welcome !! Great to have another Canadian on the Forum ! Im in Campbell River so if you are up this way..... You can buy me a coffee and I Might let you in on a few secrets about this bunch of reprobates !
GoodDays Greg