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Title: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 02, 2017, 10:38:51 AM
All, I have been doing a lot of upgrades to my boat this winter getting ready to retire next year.   One critical one for my wife and I will be suspension seat upgrade.  I added Centric SAS seats to the boat a couple of years ago and we like them but need more protection with bad back in play for both of us.   
I am in contact with a couple of suppliers and working through it right now.    My first choice at this point is the Shockwave S5 system.   They have a very cool story and I like the look of there product and development efforts to reduce high G loads we experience on the water.   They are a little more expensive then the Glyde Ryde and some others I have looked at but am leaning that way.
I plan to fabricate new set boxes to mount them on and plan to have the install done for our Neah Bay run this year.   
Shockwave has an incredible story of development and testing with the build of a RIB and they integrated Cab system for military use.   They did the Northwest passage in this vessel an incredible feat at time hitting speeds of 60 knots.   Check out the website for the six part video.   Really interesting.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: StreamFixer on December 02, 2017, 11:09:49 AM
I found Centric SAS II seat and Springfield hydraulic pedestal took care of my needs in that category...

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Croaker Stroker on December 02, 2017, 01:23:49 PM

Like SF, I also have the Springfield pedestal. I would rather sit on the seat and let the pedestal absorb the shock than stand and let my knees and back take it.

CS
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Tunacious on December 03, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
I have the Glyde Ryde system with SAS seats.  I love them.
Im not familiar with the Shockwave
I would go with the best you can afford.
It hurts when you pay for them but you will never look back.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Croaker Stroker on December 03, 2017, 05:55:31 PM


I’m always too cheap.  :doh:
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 03, 2017, 06:22:13 PM
Walt, I have been going back and forth on the Glyde Ryde.  I have appreciated your review of them.  The Shockwave system and development story just looks like a great option, but are more money. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Tom Mac on December 03, 2017, 08:08:21 PM
I have used two different shockwave seats during sea trials of smaller Canadian Navy vessels that I have refit. If the S5 works as well you wont be disappointed.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Flying Arima on December 03, 2017, 08:14:26 PM
Bruce, please post pictures when you’re done with the upgrade  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Fishin Machine on December 04, 2017, 07:09:21 AM
Driver seat is on my upgrade list this year. Please send photos. Did the bolt holes match up?
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: StreamFixer on December 04, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Did the bolt holes match up?
:jester:   :jester:   :party:   :jester:   :hoboy:

Silly boy!!!

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 04, 2017, 08:16:28 AM
I will post as the project progresses.   Going to start mock up after.  I will be making a seat box for helm so the pedestal bolt holes will be getting filled and sealed. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Threeweight on December 04, 2017, 09:48:54 AM
Bruce, they may not work for your soft top, but for folks with hard-tops...

I replaced the "Smooth Moves"spring suspension seats that came in my Hewes with a set of air ride seats last spring.  The Smooth Moves were good 75% of the time, but could bottom out if I got a little too "enthusiastic" on the throttle on rough water.  The air rides can't bottom out, and have made a huge difference in my ride.  Also infinitely adjustable to match the size/weight of the person sitting in them. 

I bought mine used (they came out of a Freightliner Cascadia) for $250 for the set, then spent another $150 on an on-board air compressor system and assorted parts.  Mounted my old seats + swivels to them.  New, you can get the suspensions by themselves fro $250-400 each.

They are just painted steel, so I'd worry about them getting chewed up fast and rusting on a soft top.  But another possible way to go, and IMO they work fantastic.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Yachter Yat on December 04, 2017, 01:19:09 PM
    Threeweight:   Air ride seats with..........WHAT?........an "onboard air compressor system"?   Wow!  You never cease to amaze us.  That said, given the distances you've reported running offshore; I'd be willing to bet it's turned-out to be a good investment.  Beats the hell out of spinal surgery, right?

Yat
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 04, 2017, 04:15:03 PM
Steve, thanks for the idea, I will have to check into that alternative.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Croaker Stroker on December 04, 2017, 04:22:33 PM

Air Compressor Floatation ??  Next thing you know, he will be adding heat and vibrator. ??
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Yachter Yat on December 04, 2017, 07:41:47 PM
    Croaker;  Please......don't give him any ideas.  You tryin' to keep him up at night?  :hoboy:   Wait a minute........what am I saying?  Threeweight probably has more ideas running around in his head than most of us put together.  :jester:

Yat
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Threeweight on December 05, 2017, 12:23:14 PM
My suspensions came with a set of 6-way adjustable heated seats out of a Freightliner... I originally planned on having them re-done with gray and red vinyl to match my boat, but I did not have enough room in my cabin for them  :doh:  When trucking companies replace the seats in big-rigs due to wear and tear, they often just yank the whole thing, seats+air ride suspensions.  I got a deal on mine by finding a guy on CL who was selling take-offs.  The high-end "marine" Bostrom and Bently air-ride suspension seats are the exact same units, just with vinyl covered seats.

My set up are OSRI-brand, with a scissor-style suspension with an airbag to absorb impacts and a mini-shock absorber as a dampener.  Work super but they are a bit bulky.  My buddy's old Stabicraft had a National-brand air ride unit for the helm seat... it was more compact and simpler swing-arm style. 

A lot of heavy equipment (tractors, bulldozers, etc... ) use these same air ride systems.  You can get rubber boots to cover the mechanism, which offers some protection from the elements.  Eventually, though, they are all gonna rust and squeek. 

My guess is these are going to be too big and bulky for most Arima's, but if someone has a really bad back they may be worth looking into.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: GregE on December 05, 2017, 02:46:07 PM
How do you define 'really bad back'  ?!?!   :hoboy:


Flying helicopters logging can put a hurt on ya.  Discovered the offset fusions when I lost  2.5 " height

Thinking about seat supports besides the SAS.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 05, 2017, 03:40:37 PM
Wow Greg, shock mitigation suspension added to your seats would be a great thing for your back as well. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: GregE on December 05, 2017, 06:35:34 PM
Wow Greg, shock mitigation suspension added to your seats would be a great thing for your back as well.

That's why I'm tracking your efforts Bruce.  I'm not too proud to copy good ideas.......   :wink:
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Threeweight on December 05, 2017, 09:36:52 PM
Greg, with your back I would certainly look into an air ride system for your helm seat.  Mechanism + an inexpensive Viair compressor will run $500-600 new.  On mine I have a small 1 gallon tank... if I were just rigging one seat, I'd skip it and rig the compressor directly to the seat.  Could build a pretty compact set up that way.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 06, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
Steve, sounds like you have a creative solution. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Threeweight on December 06, 2017, 09:15:18 AM
I was inspired when I learned Bostrom air ride seats were a nearly $4,000 upgrade when buying a new tin can  :biggrin:

I have maybe 500 in my setup.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 06, 2017, 11:08:28 AM
I am still pursuing the Shockwave S5 for my Arima.  I think that they have a great marine product designed for the roughed environment we operate in.  Further the operational testing and experience they have with military applications have been adapted for our recreational application.   
I totally respect Steve’s creative solution but from my research i think Shockwave S5 may be a great match for my Arima. 
More to come as once i get them here.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Tunacious on December 13, 2017, 10:23:36 AM
My brother has the same set up as Three Weight.

Small air compressor on board with air seats.

My brother has four air suspension seats that are all fed from his air compressor.

Not my style but when it gets really rough he doesn't slow down much.  You just lift your feet and let the seat take care of the ride.

I have 2 of the Glyde Ryde seats.

Im happy with the Glyde Rydes (they are very compact)  but I would like to see the Shock Wave seats Bruce is looking at.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 13, 2017, 10:53:33 AM
I will post pictures once I have them installed.   They sound be to me in a couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Ssericz on December 14, 2017, 12:49:38 PM
anyone use the seaspension pedestals? after buying the parker and going on their forum thats all anyone over there ever talks about
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 15, 2017, 05:33:55 AM
Looks like they are popular with Parker.  I looked at those as well. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 16, 2017, 08:01:53 AM
I plan to have the new Shockwave S5 suspension system on the boat for Neah Bay.   Feel free to stop by if you want to check it out.   Hope it is as good as I think it is.   They have it on sale for Christmas at $100 dollars off.   Still pretty expensive, However if it reduces injury and overall body fatigue on those long run days, it will be well worth it.   
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Speedbump on December 16, 2017, 05:01:08 PM
I believe my boat has the Bostrom air rides in it.  The seats have 6-1/2" vertical travel, 9 inch fore and aft, recline, arm rests, swivel and built in air compressors. I hadn't had a boat with air ride seats in it before this one, and it is sure nice! 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 16, 2017, 07:25:11 PM
Nice set up.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 22, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
Well, here are what my new Shockwave S5 Suspension systems look like.  I will be able to mount on my existing companion box and will build a new aluminum box for the helm side.  I think I could just mount like a 1/2" aluminum plate to the pedestal and mount it but want a seat box on that side anyway.

Don't look at the mess on the floor, still working on putting the boat back together after the plumbing and Electronic upgrades this winter.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Tom Mac on December 22, 2017, 02:34:52 PM
Nice, look as well made as the rest of the seat systems I have seen from them.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: J Chaser on December 22, 2017, 02:42:00 PM
Wow that looks heavy duty.

J.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 22, 2017, 05:42:43 PM
From my first inspection they are really robust.   all of the bores have bushings installed, the aluminum casting look great and the machine work is well done.   the shock system looks to be top notch.    I am excited to experience the difference at Neah Bay this spring.   I am sure the 20 mile runs out of Westport will be much more comfortable as well.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Speedbump on December 25, 2017, 02:40:04 PM
Those look really skookum Bruce!  Good luck with the install...
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 26, 2017, 11:57:53 AM
Today I mounted one of the Shockwave S5 units to the passenger seat box and attached the Centric SAS seat.   The fit is tight but works.   The seat box might need to move aft about 4 to 6 inches.   My wife likes it where it is so I will leave it for now.   The seat now sits almost 8 inches higher and my wife really likes the better visability.    The Centric seat bolted right up to the S5 with the existing swivel base I had. 
I hope to get the aluminum to the shop for the brake press work this week for the helm side seat box.   For now I will only build one new box for the helm side.   Really like the way the S5 feels once I charged the shock.   

Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: rasslingref on December 26, 2017, 05:11:30 PM
Very Nice Bruce


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Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Ttcustomz on December 26, 2017, 05:19:48 PM
Very nice!!! How much does something like that cost?? Looking at options fishery supply has a Bentley one. That I might end up going with because of cost.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 26, 2017, 07:34:34 PM
They are not cheap for sure.   The ShockWave S5 are $900 each.   I was looking at almost $750 for the Glyde Ride system and there some higher and lower.   After doing all of my research and seeing how beefy these are build I think we have made a good choice in protecting our backs on those rough water days.  Additionally I think these are a good fit for an Arima.   
I guess we will find out this spring out on the big water.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: GregE on December 26, 2017, 07:59:40 PM
You're going to need a step stool to get into that port seat.....

How high of a foot rest will be needed?
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 27, 2017, 08:17:22 AM
Greg, I will be mounting a foot step 7.5" up on the front of the seat box to make up the height the S5 raised the seat.   I have some extra Aluminum diamond plate left from when I built my Drift boat so that should work well for it.   I will do the same with the helm side seat box when I fabricate it.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 27, 2017, 08:32:47 AM
I will see how this works out on the port side.   If it ends up being too high I will build another box to lower it.   We have always felt the seats were too low in the boat, the wife really likes the height.   If I had a hard top, I would have to make new boxes for both sides as the hard top is lower then my skip tower.   
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Speedbump on December 28, 2017, 12:36:02 PM
Something that you have probably already thought about Bruce, but if you can build the footrests to be able to fold up and get out of the way, it allows you to run the boat standing if needed and lean into the seat if needed...
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on December 28, 2017, 01:27:03 PM
I am looking at that option for the helm seat as well.   I will mock up the foot rest and decide before I commit to a direction.  Good input, thanks
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 01, 2018, 02:49:06 PM
I got back out to the shop this morning and fabricated and installed a foot rest on the Port Passenger seat box.   As Greg noted the foot rest is pretty high on the box but it seems to work well.   

(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/5272-010118144510.jpeg)
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 01, 2018, 02:51:05 PM
Another picture of the foot rest.

(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/5272-010118144422.jpeg)
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: rasslingref on January 01, 2018, 03:01:48 PM
Will the cuddy door still fully open?  Once again very nice work Bruce.
Another thought is the shin busting corners of the foot rest.


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Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 01, 2018, 03:09:55 PM
Dave, The foot rest is made so that the cuddy door is fully functional.  As we all know, the port side is a bit tight to begin with so that was a design consideration.  I thought about making the corners softer but, went with the small radius created when I TIG welded the unit.   The rest is inset a couple of inches from the edge of the seat box so I believe he risk of inadvertent shin busting will be minimal.  As you noted time will tell if I am correct.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: ATGEP on January 02, 2018, 05:01:34 AM
Bruce,
The setup looks awesome. One thing that sticks out in the pictures is the hinges for the box top. You may want to consider beefing up the lid attachment as you have raised the height of seat by a large margin.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 02, 2018, 06:53:41 AM
That is a very good point.   I actually had some bending already starting on those little hinges.   I straightened them when I was doing the Shockwave S5 install.   I have ordered some 316 Stainless Steel piano hinge for the new helm side seat box I am making and will plan to replace the hinges on the passenger side as well.
It is interesting that the way the seat box is designed on my boat, the back section for the jump seat area rest solidly on the lower box but the front section is edge to edge and only supported by the hinges.   Not sure if all seat boxes are this way.   
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Fisherdv on January 02, 2018, 08:29:37 AM
Bruce, the thing that concerns me with the height of the seats is the higher center of gravity with sitting up that high. Visibility would be great but,  It may make the boat feel more tippy in rough water  :twocents:
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 02, 2018, 08:57:33 AM
I will find out once I get back on the water.  Worst case I end up building lower custom seat boxes.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 07, 2018, 05:06:41 PM
Got my material back from brake form on Friday and got out to the shop today to finish welding and getting the fasteners holes in the box for the hinge and Shockwave S5.  Still need to put in holes to mount to the deck of the boat and placement of the foot rest.   hope to have it off to get blasted, primed and powder-coated this week.   Might be able to wrap this project up in a couple of weeks.

(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/5272-070118170022.jpeg)
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 07, 2018, 05:09:08 PM
This helm side seat box is a lower then the Arima seat box.   The foot rest will not be so high, looking at a folding one as someone mentioned.

(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/5272-070118170118.jpeg)
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Threeweight on January 08, 2018, 10:08:29 AM
Looking good... one suggestion... perhaps include one of these stainless spring "hatch holders" for each box (or even a hydraulic strut).

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm111/yellow186/locker2.jpg)

Lid's going to be really, really heavy with the suspension + seat on it... a spring will help hold it open so you can access the storage, and will prevent it from falling all the way over and tearing the hinge out.  Strut would probably work better, but more $$ and uncertain longevity.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Croaker Stroker on January 08, 2018, 10:37:59 AM

+1. The stainless spring works good.  Can’t remember why, but I also added a chain to prevent over-travel. ?
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 08, 2018, 11:01:31 AM
Good ideas on the lift assist, I will look into both options.  Thanks, just what I need, help spending money.   :party:
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 08, 2018, 11:04:43 AM
The Shockwave S5 units are 20# and with the seat close to 30# so, not a bad idea to help on lifting.  Thanks for the help to think about that.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Croaker Stroker on January 08, 2018, 11:20:17 AM

The spring really doesn’t help lift. When opening the lid, the spring stiffens to hold the it up. To lower the lid, you just bend the spring in the middle.


Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 20, 2018, 03:06:30 PM
Well have been sick for the last week or so and have not got much done.  Got out to the shop today to finish test fitting the helm sit seat box and foot rest.   Here are a couple of pictures.   Ended up not being able to find an swivel adapter for this seat with the correct hole pattern so I made a fixed one out of a chunk of aluminum.   Seat box and adapter will go to Powder coat on Monday.

(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/5272-200118150117.jpeg)
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 20, 2018, 03:07:37 PM
(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/5272-200118150159.jpeg)
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 20, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
Fixed seat adapter plate.

(http://www.arimaowners.com/gallery/10/5272-200118150244.jpeg)
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Omega3 on January 20, 2018, 05:51:21 PM
The seat is fixed in the forward position?
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 21, 2018, 07:19:41 AM
The seat is mounted to the only location on the Shockwave S5 that is designed for a swivel type mount.  That position has the front of the Centric SAS seats I have even with the front of the S5 unit.   

I was surprised the Garelick seat swivel I ordered hole pattern was too wide and would not mount to the SAS seats, the one that came on the passenger side from the factory did, same brand swivel.   It would mount to the Shockwave unit.   Anyway rather then trying some of the others available I just made the adapter as I do not swivel the helm seat anyway.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Omega3 on January 21, 2018, 08:16:44 AM
Thanks Bruce,your metal work looks great!I have the same seats and after seeing your install I have seat envy.Good to know it's just a matter of finding the right swivel base to make it work.The S5 are spendy units and for me the seats must swivel.Now it's just a matter of finding 2 grand to get a set.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 21, 2018, 11:20:21 AM
It is an expensive upgrade, but looking to prevent back injury for us as we use the boat more in retirement, believe it will be a good investment.   I am very happy so far with how it is working out.   The real test will be out on the water.   I plan to provide a good report on how effective the Shockwave S5 is after our trip to Neah Bay this year.

I believe Springfield may have he seat swivel that will work with the Centric SAS seat.

Bruce
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Yachter Yat on January 22, 2018, 05:39:10 AM
   Hey Bruce:  Why couldn't you mount that seat on the lower side of an Arima box?   Because the seat adds so much extra height, I was thinking, you could mount the seat on the lower side of their "stepped top" box and have a cushion on the high side....which would face aft.   If that was still too high, might be possible to simply cut the Arima box down.  Cutting the Arima box would involve removing the top, cutting, then remounting the top.  A little work, but maybe not as much as building a box from scratch.   Just thinking about the height issue for the smaller Arimas. 

Yat
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 22, 2018, 09:31:16 AM
Yat, those are all good options.  Many things go into design consideration, cost, fabrication capability, ambition, etc...  I saw a good video of the Shockwave S5 mounted on a low seat box that needed no footrest.  This was a HewsCraft boat I beleive.  For small Arima or hard top this would be a good option. 

One reason we mounted our as we have is when we are running in open seas and at about 13 or 14mph the factory seat height did not provide great visibility over the bow to look for crab pots or debris.  My wife and I both wanted a higher seat position and not need to stand to see so, we went with the current set up.

That said, actual time on the water will give the feedback if we need to make adjustments.   I am fortunate in that I have the resources to do some fabrication as needed and have fun doing it. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Rokefin on January 22, 2018, 10:19:56 AM
Bruce - really clean work, your seat set-up is looking top notch.

Yes you are fortunate to have the resources for this kind of work - it gets frustrating and more expensive if you cannot fabricate yourself. I am also fortunate, I work at a multimillion dollar machine shop with a weld shop (mostly stainless weld), it helps when you can do your own fabricating when it comes to seat boxes/kicker brackets and so on.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 22, 2018, 10:41:27 AM
Here is a link to the review I mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD6t13rerQI
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Zarn on January 24, 2018, 04:16:18 PM
After a full season of running with the WPS suspension bracket installed at the helm coupled with a "fish-on" type seat... I am very happy with the overall performance of this bracket. The WPS bracket has provided a huge improvement over the ride I was accustomed to with the stock arima ped. seat setup.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 26, 2018, 06:52:40 AM
Zarn, you did a great job on your suspension system install.   Good to hear it is making the ride much better.   I am hoping for the same with my install.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 26, 2018, 03:25:47 PM
OK folks, here is the completed installation of my seating modification with new helm seat box and seats mounted on the Shockwave S5 units.   I think this will be a really worthwhile upgrade.   Powder coat turned out good on the seat box and it is mounted on with the old pedestal mount holes and 4 additional holes one in each corner.   All fasteners installed with 3M 4000 seal and the base has a fillet seal around it to keep water out..   

Hope to have a test run support in the near future.

Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: rasslingref on January 26, 2018, 07:06:11 PM
I know who I will be asking for a ride from at Neah Bay.  It won't be WeDoCq or Flying Arima.  Great work Bruce.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Fisherdv on January 26, 2018, 07:40:59 PM
That looks so clean, it looks factory
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Zarn on January 26, 2018, 09:29:08 PM
Well thought out. It does look like a factory install. Should make your ride a lot smoother. 
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Croaker Stroker on January 26, 2018, 09:39:46 PM


Nice job !  You’ve got skills. You are going to have a Cadillac ride right there.  :bowdown: :clap:
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on January 27, 2018, 07:28:06 AM
Thanks guys.   If this set up works as advertised it should greatly improve our boating experience, especially on those 2 hour runs out of Westport and Neah Bay.   With both my wife and I having less than prefect backs I am hoping this investment with mean more years of enjoying or Arima and since I am retiring at the end of March I want to be on the water a lot more.

If you are up in Neah Bay in May and want to stop by to check the set up out let me know.  Oh, that is not an offer for a seat on a Halibut day, My Wife and brother in law have those spoken for.   We are looking forward to the trip even though the state messed up the over all experience and having the bigger Arima group up.   We missed last year with my brother in law battling cancer but he is doing well now and looking forward to the trip.

Bruce
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Omega3 on February 08, 2018, 09:32:15 PM
Did you buy the pump from Shockwave or can something else be used?Getting close to pulling the trigger on a pair.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on February 09, 2018, 05:42:37 AM
I bought the pump from them.   It goes up to 300 psi.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on April 20, 2018, 04:06:23 PM
Well today we got the boat out on lake Washington to sea trial the new seat suspension mod.  All I can say is Wow!   They far exceeded my expectations.  We found some wind chop and crossed our own wake a few times and absolutely no jarring. 

I was up by the 520 bridge headed back south and here comes about a 40 foot yacht putting up a really big wake.  I looked at my wife and said let’s really test it.  We were running at 4000rpm about 26mph.  We hit the wake and I think we came off the water.   The landing was hard!   We looked at each other amazed, none of the impact was felt by our bodies, the Shockwave S5, dissipated all that energy really well.
Additionally, the new higher seated position is awesome with no impact on boat stability. 

This was a really good investment in our health and boating pleasure. 

Bruce
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Fisherdv on April 20, 2018, 04:18:04 PM
Nice! Glad they worked out well for you!
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Post by: Chief of the Boat on April 20, 2018, 05:13:01 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Speedbump on April 20, 2018, 07:04:06 PM
Nice build Bruce!
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on May 16, 2018, 11:24:33 AM
Just wanted to follow up with how the Shockwave S5 suspension system worked out at Neah Bay.   We had some pretty rough seas out there.   We were pleased and amazed at how different the boat felt and how much shock we were shielded from with the new system.   It truly feels like a new boat.   Our backs and necks made it through the week without being in pain.   There were the best investment we could have made in the boat.   After spending a week in them I am so happy we made the decision to buy them.
Another really great thing is the raised seated position.   So much better viability and in our set up it reduces shoulder tension, which I did not know was an issue.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Omega3 on May 16, 2018, 11:32:04 AM
I just ordered one yesterday,looking forward to some neck pain relief.
Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: rasslingref on May 16, 2018, 08:30:54 PM
Jealous here.


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Title: Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
Post by: Omega3 on May 22, 2018, 08:17:25 PM
I put mine in today.I will give a report on how it works after the trip to the ocean Sunday.