I was just talking about a camping trip to Yosemite but probably hard to get a spot and long waits. I'd like to do a more remote camping trip there, but not all that familiar with the area.

Quote from: Dai20bt on Yesterday at 10:43:56 AM1) What criteria do you use to decide it is time?  Hours, maintenance costs, age, run it until it dies?

- since becoming arima 17sr owner 4 years ago, I've discovered a deep joy for fishing in saltwater around San Juan Islands and soon, Canadian waters. I see more time exploring these waters when my son starts driving himself around.
- coming into this season, I've been using 2000 Yamaha 115hp 4 stroke. Got this motor after Evinrude ficht 115 died midway back from Sucia island to Blaine. I was lucky fishing buddy was with me on trip with his own boat. He towed me in.
- the Yami 115 got me back on water same month (middle of covid) so was ecstatic about that, but always felt uneasy about 23 yr old motor on 17-20 mile runs to fish.
- over the winter looked seriously at trading arima in for something aluminum vs repower, thinking it would bring more peace of mind. In the end, decided to repower after learning more about new motor technologies (also helpful that a few local marine techs encouraged me to keep using arima.

2) When you last repowered, what did you start with and what did you go to?  Do you have a particular allegiance to specific brands or models?
- I had no allegiance to brand so was open.  I originally was sold on new Suzuki 115hp with drive by wire, but couldn't after quite came in $6k over budget.
- local Yamaha dealer contacted me day after I was shocked by Suzuki quote about 2023 90hp vmax sho on special.

3) Budget, if you are comfortable sharing
- 12k or less

4) What did you do yourself versus what you paid someone else to do?
- I bought the Yamaha 90vmax sho and saved $$ using existing rigging. I didn't know new motors could be plug and play!
5) What would you do different next time?
- I would first look at newer motors that can connect to existing rigging for cost savings.

6) What caught you by surprise?
- the amazing performance of 90hp motor with 14x15 turbo 1 SS prop. All I knew was 115hp on 17sr. The current setup is more responsive and powerful than 2000 115 motor(I was likely underpropped for past 3 yrs).
- the older 703 control box, standard mechanical cables and gauges work great with new motor!

7) Is there anything specific to know about repowering an Arima versus any other boat?
- propeller selection seems to be important for our stern heavy boats. I think it's worthwhile to test a couple different ones to dial it in.

You and I have basically the same boat - I am also in an 87 Sea Ranger.  If you make it up to Vancouver Island this season maybe they can have a play date.

  I bit the bullet today and put the deposit down on a repower for mine too.  Going with a Honda 100, and as per consensus going to hydraulic steering in the process.  I was thinking Suzuki originally too, but the cost for controls and gauges vs the fact that they are included in the Honda price made the difference.  Also the fact I can source the Honda through my local marine mechanic, who has serviced this boat for 15 years before I bought it.  The Zuki I would have had to pay more and tow about 2 hours down the highway both for the install and ongoing service.  Worth it to me to maintain relationships with the local guy I know and trust - as they say, you can't buy experience. 

And hey, it won't be the first Arima rolling with a Honda main - won't even be the first Honda on this boat, since as mentioned earlier in this thread its an older carbed 75hp Honda coming off.

Yep we got dumped on again this year and then got hammered with 2 cold late season storms. Still lots of snow in our local mountains too.
This is the time to take a trip to Yosemite to see the falls, the falls are flowing heavy again this year. If anyone plans a trip there, you need reservations now to enter the park and wait times (traffic) at the gates before the park opens is a long wait.

Do you have a pic of the back of your boat out of the water? Any fin on the motor? Any trim tabs? What hole is the motor mounted?

QuoteIs there any type of adapter needed going from the Yamaha to the Honda lower?

The splines are the same for Yamaha and Honda so I suspect you just use the existing thrust washer and prop nut, but I have never actually put this SDS prop on a Honda, so can't be 100% sure.

At any rate, it is an expensive prop, so best to experiment first. I have the 15" pitch version you could test with but I know that's too much pitch.

Assuming the trim was adjusted accordingly
Thinking a 4 blade solas would be a good fit. Just a guess.

Quote from: Tom C on Yesterday at 07:08:59 PMI'd try a 14" x 12" Yamaha Talon Pontoon SDS and expect a top speed of ~30 MPH with comparable fuel economy improvement. But what you will really notice is much improved handling.

Is there any type of adapter needed going from the Yamaha to the Honda lower?

I'm pretty surprised that it didn't rev higher considering there's people with the super similar setups running 14x15P props and getting closer to 6k rpm.

I'd try a 14" x 12" Yamaha Talon Pontoon SDS and expect a top speed of ~30 MPH with comparable fuel economy improvement. But what you will really notice is much improved handling.

6 gallon tank enclosed in the pontoon area. Small in-line filter there was a boot there before I used 1/4" starboard to close it

I'm running an independent kicker tank, also under the port side bait tank.  I don't have an access hole/boot on that side of the motor well (thinking about putting one in though).  My kicker fuel hose is long enough to come out the existing starboard side boot and to the kicker.  I don't have a separator for either tank.  But, getting one for the main is likely to be a project this next off-season.

For me, the pros of a separate system outweigh any cons.  The biggest concern for me is that my tanks (both of them) are "portable".  This means that I don't have an actual gas gauge (unless you count the little joke of a needle on the top of the tank).  My only accurate fuel gauge is my digital motor gauge.  It monitors total fuel used and is re-settable.  It is my de-facto fuel gauge, but it only monitors usage/flow with my main.  If I start pulling fuel from my main tank for the kicker, that data becomes inaccurate (and not in my favor out on the water).

Another "pro" for my set-up is that I have both of my tanks/hoses set up with matching quick-disconnect fittings.  Yes, I try to manage my fuel with ample room for safety, error, and "oh, $h1t".  But, if the need arises, I could switch hose connections and have my main draw off of the kicker tank for a couple of extra spare gallons.

My main tank is a 12-gallon "portable" (good luck lifting that out when full).  My kicker tank is the factory 3.2-gallon that came with the motor.  I can troll for the better part of the day on about a gallon of gas, or less, with the kicker.  That leaves a couple gallons as "extra-emergency" fuel for the main, if it were to be needed.

One other pro to this set-up came last fall.  I was able to run my main tank down pretty well (my fall fishing on the Skagit River is pretty close to the launch).  Being "portable" and only having a couple of gallons left, I was able to lift it out.  I emptied the remaining fuel, from both tanks, into my truck and stored the tanks in the garage for the winter.  This spring, I was able to start with totally dry tanks and fill with fresh gas.