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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2018, 06:53:41 AM »
That is a very good point.   I actually had some bending already starting on those little hinges.   I straightened them when I was doing the Shockwave S5 install.   I have ordered some 316 Stainless Steel piano hinge for the new helm side seat box I am making and will plan to replace the hinges on the passenger side as well.
It is interesting that the way the seat box is designed on my boat, the back section for the jump seat area rest solidly on the lower box but the front section is edge to edge and only supported by the hinges.   Not sure if all seat boxes are this way.   
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Online Fisherdv

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2018, 08:29:37 AM »
Bruce, the thing that concerns me with the height of the seats is the higher center of gravity with sitting up that high. Visibility would be great but,  It may make the boat feel more tippy in rough water  :twocents:
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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2018, 08:57:33 AM »
I will find out once I get back on the water.  Worst case I end up building lower custom seat boxes.
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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2018, 05:06:41 PM »
Got my material back from brake form on Friday and got out to the shop today to finish welding and getting the fasteners holes in the box for the hinge and Shockwave S5.  Still need to put in holes to mount to the deck of the boat and placement of the foot rest.   hope to have it off to get blasted, primed and powder-coated this week.   Might be able to wrap this project up in a couple of weeks.

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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2018, 05:09:08 PM »
This helm side seat box is a lower then the Arima seat box.   The foot rest will not be so high, looking at a folding one as someone mentioned.

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Offline Threeweight

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2018, 10:08:29 AM »
Looking good... one suggestion... perhaps include one of these stainless spring "hatch holders" for each box (or even a hydraulic strut).



Lid's going to be really, really heavy with the suspension + seat on it... a spring will help hold it open so you can access the storage, and will prevent it from falling all the way over and tearing the hinge out.  Strut would probably work better, but more $$ and uncertain longevity.
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2018, 10:37:59 AM »

+1. The stainless spring works good.  Can’t remember why, but I also added a chain to prevent over-travel. ?
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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2018, 11:01:31 AM »
Good ideas on the lift assist, I will look into both options.  Thanks, just what I need, help spending money.   :party:
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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2018, 11:04:43 AM »
The Shockwave S5 units are 20# and with the seat close to 30# so, not a bad idea to help on lifting.  Thanks for the help to think about that.
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Offline Croaker Stroker

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2018, 11:20:17 AM »

The spring really doesn’t help lift. When opening the lid, the spring stiffens to hold the it up. To lower the lid, you just bend the spring in the middle.


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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 03:06:30 PM »
Well have been sick for the last week or so and have not got much done.  Got out to the shop today to finish test fitting the helm sit seat box and foot rest.   Here are a couple of pictures.   Ended up not being able to find an swivel adapter for this seat with the correct hole pattern so I made a fixed one out of a chunk of aluminum.   Seat box and adapter will go to Powder coat on Monday.

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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 03:07:37 PM »
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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 03:09:13 PM »
Fixed seat adapter plate.

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Online Omega3

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 05:51:21 PM »
The seat is fixed in the forward position?
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Online BruceL2_Fish

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #64 on: Today at 07:19:41 AM »
The seat is mounted to the only location on the Shockwave S5 that is designed for a swivel type mount.  That position has the front of the Centric SAS seats I have even with the front of the S5 unit.   

I was surprised the Garelick seat swivel I ordered hole pattern was too wide and would not mount to the SAS seats, the one that came on the passenger side from the factory did, same brand swivel.   It would mount to the Shockwave unit.   Anyway rather then trying some of the others available I just made the adapter as I do not swivel the helm seat anyway.
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Online Omega3

Re: Suspension seat system upgrade
« Reply #65 on: Today at 08:16:44 AM »
Thanks Bruce,your metal work looks great!I have the same seats and after seeing your install I have seat envy.Good to know it's just a matter of finding the right swivel base to make it work.The S5 are spendy units and for me the seats must swivel.Now it's just a matter of finding 2 grand to get a set.
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