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Title: Cutwater?
Post by: headduck on November 18, 2016, 01:09:01 PM
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bod/5882389241.html

Anybody seen one of these???

Quite well appointed...and interesting thing going on at the water line..?

Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Markshoreline on November 18, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
You can see one at the boat show.  I've drooled all over their 26 for a few years- this one looks like a better fisher, though.  Not that we can fish anymore...
They are really nicely made and finished boats!
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: pgbrown on November 18, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Well now, the wife would like that. 
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Salmon King on November 18, 2016, 05:41:55 PM
Beauty of a craft for sure!  Kind of a smallish dance floor though.
Of course that really shouldn't matter much at the rate we are losing our right to fish.
Now all you wanted to do was to cruise around the sound and maybe overnight now and then.....

I bet a 22' SL or a 21' Explorer would work equally well and cost less to buy AND operate.
Comfort level, I imagine, would be pretty close too.
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Shackleton on December 04, 2016, 05:06:26 AM
I saw it at the aboston boat show last year. Pretty nice. I'll have to wait 20 years to buy a used one!
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: headduck on December 04, 2016, 08:28:50 AM
The hull design looks fairly unique. Fit and finish would make me feel like I should preserve it and not use it....guess that means I can't afford it. :shrug9:
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: fbtased2002 on December 04, 2016, 01:08:20 PM
good info on the hull design but $110,000 before options for the 24?

http://www.cutwaterboats.com/models.aspx?itemid=2710&prodid=13659&pagetitle=C-242+Open
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Markshoreline on December 05, 2016, 01:20:14 PM
The sticker would make me explore used boats...
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: ak-angler on December 05, 2016, 03:10:22 PM
Interesting looking boat. But not exactly a stripped down dedicated fishing boat... Full head, built in grill and a sink on the back deck, microwave, fridge, sleeps 2-4... lots of amenities for the cruiser crowd. Can't really compare price tags between a new Cutwater and a used Arima, but I don't think the price is totally out of line when compared to closer competition. How much is a new 22 Arima (including power)? Or a 25 foot C-Dory? Sea Sport Explorer 24? 23- or 25-foot Ranger tug? Rosborough RF246? ... Can't really be that much cheaper, can they?   :shrug9:

Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Vancouvertechie on December 06, 2016, 06:12:36 AM
There are other alternatives.  Hopefully sooner than later.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2000/Albin-28-Tournament-Express-2988508/Middlesex-County/NJ/United-States#.WEbG8fkrK00

VT
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Shackleton on December 06, 2016, 09:35:53 AM
Quote from: Vancouvertechie on December 06, 2016, 06:12:36 AM
There are other alternatives.  Hopefully sooner than later.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2000/Albin-28-Tournament-Express-2988508/Middlesex-County/NJ/United-States#.WEbG8fkrK00

VT


I had an Albin 27 FC which was the model that the attached boat replaced.  My boat was a slow, slow boat and very heavy.  Very well built but a different animal from the trailerable boats listed above.  Overall I think I am happier with the Arima to be honest.
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Diablo on December 06, 2016, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: Vancouvertechie on December 06, 2016, 06:12:36 AM
There are other alternatives.  Hopefully sooner than later.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2000/Albin-28-Tournament-Express-2988508/Middlesex-County/NJ/United-States#.WEbG8fkrK00

VT

I was looking at and became obsessed with Albin 28 about 7 years ago before we bought the cruiser we have now.. There were two in the area around and over $100K. The price on the one above seems very reasonable. This is not a boat you could trailer around and launch by yourself. You would want moorage near where you like to cruise / fish. Very nice NW boats.
Note: the listing said "aft cabin" that is a stretch, there is a bunk that goes aft from the cabin.

The fishing / cruising boat dilemma, the bigger the boat gets for cruising the less fishable it is. Then you will want to put your fishing boat on your cruising boat or tow it.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: ak-angler on December 06, 2016, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: Diablo on December 06, 2016, 10:18:11 AMThe fishing / cruising boat dilemma...

... there is no perfect boat. It's all about finding something that meets all of your needs, and most of your wants, at a price you can afford. And there's a lot of good to be said about an Arima in that regard. Just like any other boat, they're not perfect. But they deliver so much in such a small package. It's actually pretty amazing.  :smile1:
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Shackleton on December 06, 2016, 10:56:14 AM
I really like the Ranger Tug 23.  Maybe that will be affordable in 15 years :shrug9:
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Vancouvertechie on December 06, 2016, 10:59:45 AM
Yes, I would agree there is no one perfect boat.  My 19' is great, but not a great overnighter or pocket cruiser for 3 or 4.  We had such a great time in the San Juan that I would like to cruise and anchor in the summers up there more.  I know in the Puget Sound that salmon fishing is becoming a rare commodity, but hopefully both shrimping and crabbing will still be around.  Maybe a little Canadian fishing if there is an opportunity.

I plan on dry stacking that boat up north somewhere and having a small boat in my garage down here.  Right now the 19's sits in a heated warehouse, but I think a smaller boat will get used more locally.  The larger boat will be my weekend get away or two week excursion through the islands, Victoria, and maybe the inside passage.

As much as I love fishing and eating what I catch.  I find that being on the water and cruising is just as enjoyable.  So long as I am bringing fish from Mexico home. 

VT
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Threeweight on December 06, 2016, 11:16:03 AM
If I had the $$ and wanted a fiberglass luxury 28' cruiser/fisher, I'd be looking at the Whaler Conquest 285.

(http://www.boattest.com/images-gallery/photos/boston_whaler_285conquest_hardturn.jpg)

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/family-overview/conquest-boat-models/285-conquest-pilothouse/
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Vancouvertechie on December 06, 2016, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: Threeweight on December 06, 2016, 11:16:03 AM
If I had the $$ and wanted a fiberglass luxury 28' cruiser/fisher, I'd be looking at the Whaler Conquest 285.

(http://www.boattest.com/images-gallery/photos/boston_whaler_285conquest_hardturn.jpg)

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/family-overview/conquest-boat-models/285-conquest-pilothouse/

I hear ya on those. Couple years back I looked a the conquest and the Wellcraft Coastals.  Too bad no photos of the cuddy on that Boston on their site.  My thoughts are whats going to happen with the outboards and Ethanol in the future?  I don't foresee that problem with diesel, but I could be wrong.  Being in the NW I am all for diesel heat.   The boat can be on a trailer but with your wide load permit.  7500 lbs.


Sorry Headduck to hijack your thread.  The Cutwater and Ranger are nice boats, but most of them push 6 figures.



VT
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Threeweight on December 06, 2016, 11:58:34 AM
I crawled around in a Conquest 285 at a boat show a few years ago (believe it or not, they had one w/ the full hardtop and alaska bulkhead at the Portland show).  The interiors are very nice, with a full stand-up show and head, big king-sized master berth, and second queen size berth under the pilot house.  Lots of stainless and teak in the interior, but the price tag was $$$$$$.  Whaler's video on them shows a lot more of the interior:

https://youtu.be/XXhn_MVTltA (https://youtu.be/XXhn_MVTltA)

Ethanol vs. diesel... I'm not that worried.  Ethanol is a problem for older motors, not modern motors designed to tolerate the higher dose of alcohol in it.  Most marina's already carry E0 anyway, and once you get into a 28' class boat you are not going to be trailering that sucker back and forth every Saturday.  Marine diesel engines typically cost about 50% more per horsepower than an outboard, and maintenance can be much more expensive (especially Volvo-Penta diesels).




Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Yachter Yat on December 06, 2016, 12:54:45 PM
    The answer is simple...........a Sea Hunter and a 40+ foot trawler yacht.  Now, the Hunter, no problem........the trawler.............

Yat
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Diablo on December 06, 2016, 01:52:21 PM
Ah the perfect boat. I believe there many on this forum that feel they have the perfect boat.
When I had my 17SR it was great for fishing, I could tow the kids around on tubes, spend time on the lake. Went to the hydro races, opening day. I could take out of town friends out for a cruise. Affordable. It was just what I needed, then. So at that time in my life it was my perfect boat. Now things have changed but for me my 19SR is just right for the what I use it for. A new one would be nice but $ then I $ would $ worry about $ bumping the dock $ or friends $ that might $ scratch something.  And I would have to redo all the customizing I have done.

So I guess if you don't have the perfect boat you may need more boats. If you want to see if there are larger boats in your price range go to Yachtworld and do a advanced search. It's fun I search all the time.

For example I found Saddam Hussein Yacht for something like $100K

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/28/article-0-0062A75900000258-674_634x423.jpg
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Markshoreline on December 06, 2016, 04:01:10 PM
Looks like a missile found it first!
Title: Re: Cutwater?
Post by: Rokefin on December 07, 2016, 12:34:59 PM
WOW! That Whaler looks just like the ticket!!  but would need a winning lottery ticket to buy it:(