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Title: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Yachter Yat on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 AM
    Anybody watching this latest Ken Burns documentary?  Pretty interesting.  One of my older brothers, who passed away a few years ago, served there in 68/69.  Ken is from N.H.  My wife and I actually ran into him in a gift shop up North some years ago.  Probably one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet. 

Yat
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Danno on September 21, 2017, 08:35:31 AM
Just started watching it. DVR'ing it.
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: StreamFixer on September 21, 2017, 08:48:12 AM
Missed it, but would like to watch if anyone has a link...

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: GregE on September 21, 2017, 09:18:14 AM
I had it programmed to record, but the first one is The End starting in 1968....
  this is Newsmax  British program.

Going to do another search

Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: GregE on September 21, 2017, 09:24:26 AM
OK got it it's on episode 5 right now but I am able to record the earlier ones too.

Sf, check your local PBS station  it continues into Oct 3
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: croaker stroker on September 21, 2017, 11:24:38 AM


http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/watch/episode-4/
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Markshoreline on September 21, 2017, 12:41:30 PM
I saw the introductory program and got the idea the actual series would begin next week.  Glad you mentioned it Yat.
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Danno on September 24, 2017, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Yachter Yat on September 21, 2017, 06:04:06 AM
    Anybody watching this latest Ken Burns documentary?  Pretty interesting.  One of my older brothers, who passed away a few years ago, served there in 68/69.  Ken is from N.H.  My wife and I actually ran into him in a gift shop up North some years ago.  Probably one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet. 

Yat


done
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: StreamFixer on September 24, 2017, 12:33:07 PM
My bride of 44 years is still smarter than I (not an overly difficult achievement).  She found the program and has recorded it from the series start...   :redface:

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Markshoreline on September 24, 2017, 01:25:32 PM
When we were having lunch on Friday the waitress named all eleven beers on tap from memory.  When I mentioned how impressive that was and I could never do that she replied, "Of course, you're male!"
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: wedocq on September 24, 2017, 02:14:38 PM
I have heard its really well done. I plan on watching!
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: headduck on September 24, 2017, 02:28:14 PM
Think I saw it for sale at costco.
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Yachter Yat on September 24, 2017, 03:39:59 PM
    Danno:

   Thanks for correcting those dates for me.  Really appreciate it. 

All the best,  Yat

Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Danno on September 26, 2017, 03:49:07 PM
Just finished the LBJ episode. The first episode was great. I learned so much. I had no clue about the history of the French in Vietnam before the USA was involved.

They pretty much through Kennedy and Johnson under the bus but I do remember the concern that was highlighted over and over again in the 2nd and 3rd episodes that almost everybody was concerned about spreading communism and what the Vietnam people wanted had nothing to do with why we were there. Their viewpoint that Russia wanted to lower their cold war stance but I'm sure once Russian weapons reached the North Vietnamese, the USA was not going to allow for any of a reduction in the cold war tension.

Can't wait to watch more.



Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Yachter Yat on September 26, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
   Actually, that all started with Truman after WW2.   The French were crying in their Champagne.  The Japanese had kicked them out and they wanted their Colony back.  Problem is they had come to learn that they couldn't do it alone. All the people of Vietnam wanted was to finally be independent.  We should have told the French to take a hike.  Maybe someday we'll learn to stop sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. 

Yat
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: StreamFixer on September 27, 2017, 08:14:07 AM
Yat

And why did we help the French in the late '40's,  The reasons are not related to nationalism...  All that is necessary to explain our involvement in any conflict since WW2 is to FOLLOW THE MONEY, and now I am getting on the edge of the verboten area of politics.

Ken Burns production is well worth watching as well as being instructive.  Of course he has an agenda in this work so I would recommend we each do further investigation/research into the matter before becoming settled in our understanding of the why's and wherefores...

At this point, let's curtail further thread discussion and call the matter closed. 

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Yachter Yat on September 27, 2017, 08:35:30 AM
   Yeah.........Danno..........cut it out!  :jester:

Yat
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Danno on September 27, 2017, 09:26:30 AM
Quote from: Yachter Yat on September 27, 2017, 08:35:30 AM
   Yeah.........Danno..........cut it out!  :jester:

Yat


Yes, I know!  I did not comment on Kennedy and Johnson to be political. I was only 8 in 1965 so I was clueless to these events when it started. Even when I graduated high school in 1975, I wasn't really paying attention. Both of my older brothers had high draft numbers so they were not talking much about it. They graduated in '70 and '72.
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Markshoreline on September 27, 2017, 09:51:00 AM
In the late 60's I lived in a military community off base and was required to take "Americanism vs. Communism" in high school.  Pretty much a study of the domino theory and how communism will take over the world if we didn't stop it then and there.  We couldn't stop them but they didn't take over...
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: StreamFixer on September 27, 2017, 10:03:09 AM
I was a bit more involved.  As a radioman, I deciphered the action message launching the first attack missions across the DMZ, Aug 4, 1964 -- USS Ticonderoga

And yes, I am really that old... :hoboy:

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Markshoreline on September 27, 2017, 10:50:41 AM
That was my birthday!!!  I was 12... 
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Salmon King on September 27, 2017, 07:58:59 PM
I tried watching a similar series to this once several years ago.
I ended up back in therapy because it reinitiated my flashbacks.
I have trouble watching any war movies ever since I came home from Vietnam.
Seems like just when I go a couple of years with only a minor occurrence or two something triggers them again.

Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: jamaica on September 28, 2017, 09:58:13 AM
Quote from: Salmon King on September 27, 2017, 07:58:59 PM
I tried watching a similar series to this once several years ago.
I ended up back in therapy because it reinitiated my flashbacks.
I have trouble watching any war movies ever since I came home from Vietnam.
Seems like just when I go a couple of years with only a minor occurrence or two something triggers them again.
Thanks for your service, I'm glad you're with us.
Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: GregE on September 28, 2017, 10:02:08 AM
SF, Let this thread run

67- 69;  70- 71

G

Title: Re: Ken Burns Vietnam on PBS
Post by: Yachter Yat on September 28, 2017, 01:35:43 PM
Greg;   Thank  you and.......thank you.   BTW, an old acquaintance of mine spent 2 tours over there flying choppers.  When he got back this is what he said:   "I must have been out of my  'effing' mind."  You must surely have an idea of how he felt. 

Yat