Found a very nice (in the pictures anyway) smokercraft Pro Lodge series boat with a Honda on the back.
Price is possibly a bit high maybe.
We'll see on Sunday after I take a peek at her.
This is Boat, Motor, Trailer, Scotty Electrics (which I would sell because I do not like Scotty Downriggers) and a cheap DF.
$8500 for a 2003.
But the outfit is very clean and always garaged so who knows?
Wish it was a walk through windshield model but I figure I can always make a set of canvas for it...can't I?
Show us the pics!
Quote from: Markshoreline on December 08, 2017, 01:57:54 PM
Show us the pics!
https://skagit.craigslist.org/boa/d/2009-smokercraft-lodge/6393609069.html
That looks like a nice boat. And easy to use as long as you stay off the ocean. :beerchug:
Yep, nice but I've been keeping an eye out for a CC for you. Found a Lund down here but didn't have the CC.
This is too cheap isn't it ?
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bpo/d/1990-aluminum-boat-16-foot/6392343278.html
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on December 09, 2017, 01:38:09 AM
This is too cheap isn't it ?
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bpo/d/1990-aluminum-boat-16-foot/6392343278.html
They did a good job keeping the outboard out of all the pictures.
I don't think this type of boat is real popular down here.
Salmon; I don't know man! Don't mean to be critical, but I'd be looking for something with a little more protection and offshore capability. When I see boats like that, I think two things: Wet and cold. Hate to rain on your parade but..............Oh ya, that's another thing......rain! Remember what I once said about driving down the road in your vehicle without a windshield?
Yat
Quote from: neild on December 10, 2017, 12:13:52 AM
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on December 09, 2017, 01:38:09 AM
This is too cheap isn't it ?
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bpo/d/1990-aluminum-boat-16-foot/6392343278.html
They did a good job keeping the outboard out of all the pictures.
No but it is too far away...
Quote from: Yachter Yat on December 10, 2017, 05:50:20 AMf
Salmon; I don't know man! Don't mean to be critical, but I'd be looking for something with a little more protection and offshore capability. When I see boats like that, I think two things: Wet and cold. Hate to rain on your parade but..............Oh ya, that's another thing......rain! Remember what I once said about driving down the road in your vehicle without a windshield?
Yat
I have never gone off shore yet....don't intend to.
Weather protection would be nice but...I can get canvas made for this and get the protection I need.
Actually I think this is now a moot point.
The seller was supposed to contact me with an address and phone number to set up time for me to see it.
But he never got back to me. When I last got an email from him he suggested today but never gave me an address...or his phone number.
Might even have been a hoax?!
Anyway...still looking I guess.
Salmon: Take a look at the Quintrex 430 Fishabout. This thing has "Salmon" written all over it. Not sure where you'd find a dealer though.
Yat
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Croaker, thanks. I like that little rig. Kinda looks bigger in that pic than it really is. Still nice.
Yat
I was reading up on it a little. Australian manufacturer. They tried building in the US, but failed.
Yeah, I suppose, within the domestic market alone, the boatbuilding business is inherently competitive as it is......never mind having to factor-in shipping from Australia. Too bad, as it seems to me there might actually be a market for some smaller well-designed crafts like this. Oh well.
Yat
I don't know the whole story here, but why not a used Sea hunter/sprinter?
I made that suggestion, but Salmon was looking for a small aluminum rig instead.
Yat
Gotcha, maybe a Klamath, West Coaster or a Bayrunner? All welded
I thought a Sea Hunter/Sprinter or 16 Chaser. Those small aluminum boats are cold, clamy and tippy. :twocents:
Maybe check out Lowe, Alumacraft, or G3 boats. They all make small aluminum boats.
Sea Hunter would be my absolute first choice. That said, I believe Salmon was contemplating perhaps beaching in and around some rocky areas. Guess he felt glass might not fair so well under those circumstances. BTW, if you Google-up that Quintrex 430 Fishabout you'll get a better idea of its actual size. Seeing people on it kind of brings it into perspective. 4.3 meters......A little over 14 feet, I guess.
Yat
Aluminum....must be aluminum.
I do not want to be doing fiberglass repairs in my old age.
My use is for lakes...those around me are gravel launches.
I am looking at all different manufacturers although I am leaning towards a smokercraft mostly because apparently they make the widest 16' Boat.
I do not want a boat bigger than 16' because I fish alone and bigger gets harder to handle...again as I get older.
At this point I'm even considering looking for a 16' Pontoon Boat.
I saw this boat on Used Victoria it's got everything you seem to be looking for?http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/15-Stabicraft_30577954.lite?
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/15-Stabicraft_30577954.lite?
I am new at this and the other one didn't open hope this works or if not please look on usedvictoria.com
PM sent.
I haven't actually seen one myself but google "Kimple" boats, there is a dealer in Chilliwack, BC
They look like a pretty robust aluminum boat. Plan on looking at them myself.
15 foot West coaster wide body might be perfect :twocents:
Made by Klamath
All welded
Light, easy to handle solo
Great on gas
Easy to tow
Perfect lake boat IMO
Another alternative might be a poly boat like the Smartwave. Those things appear to be almost indestructible. They make a small CC called the 4200 or (my favorite) the 4800 closed bow. Some clips on YouTube.
Yat
I don't know SK, I think I would be looking at another small Arima :applause:
Rokefin:
Sounds like you, Chief and I are in agreement. I think one of the biggest negatives for Salmon is that it's glass. That said, we have to keep in mind.....even the smallest Arima is a "real boat". Being such, it might generally require a bit more "care and feeding" than some the alternatives mentioned. That said, on the plus side, the Arima has obvious advantages over the aforementioned; not the least of which is.....SEAworthiness. (I'll assume you noticed the emphasis on "SEA") :biggrin:
Yat
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 10, 2017, 08:15:15 PM
15 foot West coaster wide body might be perfect :twocents:
Made by Klamath
All welded
Light, easy to handle solo
Great on gas
Easy to tow
Perfect lake boat IMO
Fisher...that boat would be nearly perfect....
Where is it at?
Yat...I've never heard of these Smartwave boats...I'll check out the YouTube videos.
Thanks!
Quote from: Rokefin on December 11, 2017, 09:20:33 AM
I don't know SK, I think I would be looking at another small Arima :applause:
Again....I do not want to be doing fiberglass repairs at this stage in my life anymore. Constant beaching of the craft or banging on rocks and gravel new launching and recovery will inevitably damage the keel and chine areas (possibly other areas of the bottom).
I have nothing against an ARIMA.
I loved my SeaChaser and really was torn about selling her. But it is time to move on and buy the last boat of my life. One that can take a little abuse without worrying about things like gel coating and glass delamination.
I may find a boat...I may not. It really don't matter a whole lot.
Over the course of the last 5 or 6 seasons I have caught 90% of my Salmon off the beach anyway?
But I simply will never consider buying another glass boat no matter what it costs. Heck...I've already turned down 2 free glass boats and several outstanding buys on console boats just because they were glass.
Salmon King, that is a new 15 Klamath Westcoaster. If you search them you can find dealer. That one is in Oregon. I'm not sure if you wanted new or not, but considering what type of boat you mention you want and how you would use it I thought I would post it. They are good little boats and offer some weather protection
Salmon:
You seem to place a great deal of emphasis on "banging on rocks and gravel" with respect to how your going to be using your next boat. If, in fact, that's the case, I'd look very seriously at poly boats; similar to those Smartwaves. In the long run, I honestly think they might fair better under such service.
I don't know if your still hell-bent on a CC, but if so, Smartwave offers two models.....the so-called 4200, and the slightly larger 4800. If I'm not mistaken, I believe those numbers simply refer to their respective lengths in meters; i.e., 4.2 vs. 4.8 meters. If you mostly fish alone, and in protected waters such as lakes and rivers, it seems to me (being inherently lighter and easier to handle) the smaller of the two would suffice. Don't get me wrong......I have no dog here......just making a suggestion.
Yat
Just buy a 18 foot Baja bayrunner .
Don't settle for the west coaster hold out and get the Baja model.
There out there for pretty cheap .
I almost bought one but got the arima instead .
I've fished in them quite a bit and there solid boats .
You can tow them with a four cylinder truck and they get good fuel mileage .
Quote from: Tj805 on December 11, 2017, 07:23:51 PM
Just buy a 18 foot Baja bayrunner .
Don't settle for the west coaster hold out and get the Baja model.
There out there for pretty cheap .
I almost bought one but got the arima instead .
I've fished in them quite a bit and there solid boats .
You can tow them with a four cylinder truck and they get good fuel mileage .
I think he mentioned earlier that he wanted a boat under 16 ft. But I do agree, those Bayrunner bajas are nice! I used to really want one.
This one might fit the bill (not mine). Guess it is a couple feet over 16'...
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/2008-klamath-18-foot-60-hp-4/6422714433.html
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Quote from: AlexB on December 12, 2017, 03:15:56 PM
This one might fit the bill (not mine). Guess it is a couple feet over 16'...
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/2008-klamath-18-foot-60-hp-4/6422714433.html
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AlexB, that is a nice boat. Notice in the add he says it's a "deep V". Take a close look, it is almost completely flat. I should know, I fished one for over 15 years. They are a pretty stable boat though. I had no problem with mine and I fished Santa Cruz, SF bay, and all over the Delta and rivers with it. I just have been wanting an Arima for a long time. They are good boats
Yeah, I noticed that, too. I'd say it's more of a mod V, just by looking at the pictures.
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I think that west coaster is on the right track. I understand SK's preference for an aluminum boat. We have lots of ramps with no dock so you have to beach the boat, then there are waves either from wind or the ferries to jostle the boat onto the rocks. I launch from a no dock ramp and it is tough in rough conditions.
Arima's are easy to launch but a small aluminum is even easier.
The Hewes Craft, Alumaweld etc have a greater hull thickness than the Klamath but those cost 2-3 times as much. For what he says he really wants in a boat for the lake I think it would be hard to find a more affordable aluminum boat. The Westcoaster I mentioned and the Bayrunner Baja are all made by Klamath. And if I'm not mistaken, they have foam floatation built in. :twocents:
I'd love a 16' hewes osprey...
But finding one in my price range is a real needle in a haystack kind of thing.
But...I am keeping cash in the account and ready to pounce when the time comes....
Jan. And feb. boat/sportsman's shows are coming and someone will be ordering a new boat needing to sell theirs....
Quote from: Salmon King on December 12, 2017, 08:48:33 PM
But finding one in my price range is a real needle in a haystack kind of thing.
Much like finding a 19SC at any price Terry...
StreamFixer
Quote from: StreamFixer on December 13, 2017, 08:07:33 AM
Quote from: Salmon King on December 12, 2017, 08:48:33 PM
But finding one in my price range is a real needle in a haystack kind of thing.
Much like finding a 19SC at any price Terry...
StreamFixer
They're easy enough to "find" new, if you're willing to swallow a little depreciation. ;)
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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/d/klamath-baja-bayrunner-2013/6417544955.html
Just buy it and be done . :biggrin:
Sweet boat! But I'll old enough to want some creature comforts- like a top! :jester:
There is a 16' and an 18' bayrunner on our local CL.
I am currently in talks owner of the 16 and hoping to get an answer to my email on the seller of the 18 soon.
There are certain things I like about both of them...
Quote from: Salmon King on December 14, 2017, 10:58:56 AM
There is a 16' and an 18' bayrunner on our local CL.
I am currently in talks owner of the 16 and hoping to get an answer to my email on the seller of the 18 soon.
There are certain things I like about both of them...
Look like nice boats with newer 4 stroke power. Like Mark mentioned though, they are CC boats so not much rain, weather protection as I'm sure you know. But great for active type fishing
I know you want aluminum but did you see that 2005, 14ft C-Dory for cheap$? 40hp Honda. Cute little boat with a cabin. Just thought I'd mention it.
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 14, 2017, 11:56:02 AM
I know you want aluminum but did you see that 2005, 14ft C-Dory for cheap$? Cute little boat with a cabin
Ok, it's not that cheap. I didn't see the 1 before the 4900 :doh: :whistle:
Still a good call, Fisher. I'd take that 14 C Dory before any tin CC of similar size. Maybe 12 g's would be a fair offer? Truth is, I once had a love affair with the 16 C Dory Angler............... that is, before I fell in love with Arima.
Yat
I used to like the little C-Dorys also. I used to see two of them regularly on a river I fish. One was about 22', the other was about a 16. Nice little boats. I tried to post the link but it doesn't come out highlighted on here from my iPhone
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/d/2005-dory-14/6402971951.html (https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/boa/d/2005-dory-14/6402971951.html)
Thx mooch!
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/d/aluminum-fishing-boat/6415098136.html
Quote from: Markshoreline on December 14, 2017, 03:43:40 PM
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/d/aluminum-fishing-boat/6415098136.html
Does the salmon and crab come with the boat :shrug9:
Not mine, but a couple of those crabs look small!
One thing to consider... re-sale.
Heavy gauge welded tin cans from known Pacific NW builders don't depreciate in value much, which is why it is so hard to find something like a Hewes Pro-V cheap. The flip side is when it comes time to sell, they pretty much sell themselves (for brands like North River, Duckworth, and Hewes, they seem to hold their value even better than Arimas).
If you may have sell this boat down the road at some point, that is one thing to consider when pricing against cheaper Smokercrafts, Klamaths, Bayrunners, etc...
As much as I liked my Klamath I had the bottom thickness is not that thick. If you plan on beaching or banging around on rocks I would use caution. Although gravel should be fine. The more offshore oriented Klamath or Bayrunner Baja models have a thicker aluminum hull
This should do it, 16 ft, not sure of the cost, but probably $$$ :shrug9: Looks like a solid boat
I really like the raised bow on the Bayrunner Bajas, looks like it could take some good water. So many choices, sorry Salmon King :shrug9: It's really up to YOU what you want and fits your needs. I almost feel like I'm boat shopping again :facepalm:
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 14, 2017, 10:12:19 PM
I really like the raised bow on the Bayrunner Bajas, looks like it could take some good water. So many choices, sorry Salmon King :shrug9: It's really up to YOU what you want and fits your needs. I almost feel like I'm boat shopping again :facepalm:
I agree with you about the look. They are deeper, and wider than a standard Bayrunner.
It looks so seaworthy.
Unfortunately this model is extremely hard to come by in our area. Of course when they do they demand a PREMIUM price. Owners get ridiculously high dollar for them.
Regular bay runners come up frequently however.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/boa/d/18-westcoaster-bayrunner-50/6421427497.html
I really don't have a need or a want for a 18' Boat though....
I should have stepped up for the 16...it was pretty nice and had 2017 main and kicker motors...
Sounds like Arima 19SC pricing and demand..
StreamFixer
Here's a new, 17 ft. Actually pretty reasonable starting price @ $20,995
Some info:
Everyone...
I have decided to suspend my search until the boat/sportsman shows roll around.
At that time I'm going to see about a new one.
Then I can set it up how I need it and not have to deal with inheriting someone else's "custom" items.
Thanks for looking though...
Sounds good SK. I remember you saying you weren't in any hurry to get another boat as you still catch a lot from shore. Waiting may be a good idea. That way you can take your time and get what you really want once you find it. Good luck!
Here's your new boat. The tounge option on the trailer would sell like hot cakes in the northwest.
https://youtu.be/--byPBI-PZg
Quote from: Dbobby23 on December 16, 2017, 04:21:29 PM
Here's your new boat. The tounge option on the trailer would sell like hot cakes in the northwest.
https://youtu.be/--byPBI-PZg
That thing looks like a tank!
[/quote]That thing looks like a tank!
It sure does huh. I love it, every square inch is functional.
The problem with that boat is, every time you step on board, you have to be dressed in camouflage. Hey........it's the law! I still think one of those Smartwaves is the way to go........at least for what Salmon was planning on doing. My personal favorite is that SW4800 Cuddy. 15'-7"L, 6'-6"W and 750 lbs? Man....I'd get pretty exited seeing that with a 60 Honda. I'd probably even pay a little money to see the performance stats. I think there's a pic, somewhere out there, of one of those with an arch and rocket launcher over the canvas.
Yat