Official Sunday April 24th lead pour

[Hydroman]

Do we need eyes for the weights?  Cods and DR balls

How about hooks for jigs?  Anything else??    10 days   

i have some eyes for DR and #2 eyes for weights

[Mooch]

Unfortunately, I was unable to pick up the spare lead from Mark today.  Wind, tide and wave conditions made a solo beach pickup unadvisable.  Bringing what lead I have.  The trip wasn't a total loss though as I did have an awesome Orca drive by and got to play with some otters too.

[GregE]

We should have a scale so each person can record what they brought-  And realize there will be slag so you won't take home 100%

We tend to be optimistic and the last users have been shorted.

G

[Crackerbox]

Sounds good Greg,

I don't mind going last, I am in it for the fun and learning.

I have a picnic table, folding table and someone else is going to bring one.  If 3 is not enough, then if someone else can volunteer to bring one that would be great. 

Joe

[gliderflyer]

I'll be bringing 50-80 pounds of lead which is much more than I need, the rest can get used by anyone. I also have a propane cooker but no pot.

Looking through the posts, FishBio has about 20 downrigger eyes and Hydroman has "some" eyes. Do we need more? If we're going to be short, I can make a run to LFS in Bellingham tomorrow and get more. It would be the only thing I went there for, so if we have enough I'll skip the trip. 

I'd like to make 2 downrigger balls myself and would need eyes.

Randy

[BayWolf]

I would like to try to make two 8 pound downrigger pipe weights.  (Long skinny rather than round). Does this sound:
1. Doable
2. Ridicules

Just want to see if they run any better (less blow back) than round. 

If they work well, I may try and make a couple 12lbs at the next pour.

What do I need to bring besides the lead to make these?

[FishBio]

I would like to try to make two 8 pound downrigger pipe weights.  (Long skinny rather than round). Does this sound:
1. Doable
2. Ridicules

Just want to see if they run any better (less blow back) than round. 

If they work well, I may try and make a couple 12lbs at the next pour.

What do I need to bring besides the lead to make these?

Totally doable.
Bring a bucket of sand. Dirt works fine but it smokes and stinks.
And brings some pieces of pipe. I'll have some wire so we'll be able to hang an eye in once we've poured the lead.

[BayWolf]

I would like to try to make two 8 pound downrigger pipe weights.  (Long skinny rather than round). Does this sound:
1. Doable
2. Ridicules

Just want to see if they run any better (less blow back) than round. 

If they work well, I may try and make a couple 12lbs at the next pour.

What do I need to bring besides the lead to make these?

Totally doable.
Bring a bucket of sand. Dirt works fine but it smokes and stinks.
And brings some pieces of pipe. I'll have some wire so we'll be able to hang an eye in once we've poured the lead.

Cool!!
What kind of pipe and any idea what size and length I would need to get 8 lbs of lead?

[FishBio]

I would like to try to make two 8 pound downrigger pipe weights.  (Long skinny rather than round). Does this sound:
1. Doable
2. Ridicules

Just want to see if they run any better (less blow back) than round. 

If they work well, I may try and make a couple 12lbs at the next pour.

What do I need to bring besides the lead to make these?

Totally doable.
Bring a bucket of sand. Dirt works fine but it smokes and stinks.
And brings some pieces of pipe. I'll have some wire so we'll be able to hang an eye in once we've poured the lead.

Cool!!
What kind of pipe and any idea what size and length I would need to get 8 lbs of lead?

Disposable posted a chart here somewhere of lead weight per pipe diameter per length. I'll bet you can search it up.  Stainless would be best but new pipe gets expensive quick. I admire the entrepreneurial attitude but round balls with a fin are hard to beat. If you have some pipe, that's a fine route. If you don't have pipe, but you do have a dr ball mold, that's a fine route, too. Just sayin. We have a couple molds. 

[Crackerbox]

Looks like it might rain on us and we will be in the open.  I have 2 canopies, someone might want to bring another one.

Joe

[disposable]

I've done a variety of pipe weights, but I think I threw out all those notes. here's what I remember:

if I'm not mistaken, the best diameter was 1.25 and 1.5, as they have WAY more volume than 1" pipe. you can do the math with lead and density and volume and stuff... but it's probably easier to scavenge some junkyard pipe, band saw a few different lengths, and just do trial and error. I am about 90% sure that I did 12, 15, and 18" lengths, of 1.25 and 1.5, and got a spectrum from 6-20lbs... if it comes out too heavy, you can always trim to length with a sawzall/bandsaw and drop the junk in the smelter to recover the lead.

I used galvanized pipe and once or twice the customer paid extra for tool dip (which I would DEFINITELY do if it was on my boat), but you could use black pipe if you don't mind the rust. many thick layers of enamel paint is cheaper and ALMOST as good as tool dip.

centering the eye helps a lot, and adding a through-wire can keep your eye from pulling out (never happened to me, but I've heard of this in other heavy designs). I formed a little "keeper wire" from coat hanger material, that would *clip/pinch* onto the pipe threads (you may have a spare worker to position the eye at just the right moment, but my workers were not super reliable so I prepositioned the eye).

and whenever you add the eye, you may want to consider pre-threading a heavy ball swivel (like, the 400lb ones!), as the extra $1.50 can really improve your line management (off center eye, under load, with some side current... pipe weights can spin A LOT). if not on the sinker eye, might still be advisable on a short "handling leader" of tuna cord.

[BayWolf]

I've done a variety of pipe weights, but I think I threw out all those notes. here's what I remember:

if I'm not mistaken, the best diameter was 1.25 and 1.5, as they have WAY more volume than 1" pipe. you can do the math with lead and density and volume and stuff... but it's probably easier to scavenge some junkyard pipe, band saw a few different lengths, and just do trial and error. I am about 90% sure that I did 12, 15, and 18" lengths, of 1.25 and 1.5, and got a spectrum from 6-20lbs... if it comes out too heavy, you can always trim to length with a sawzall/bandsaw and drop the junk in the smelter to recover the lead.

I used galvanized pipe and once or twice the customer paid extra for tool dip (which I would DEFINITELY do if it was on my boat), but you could use black pipe if you don't mind the rust. many thick layers of enamel paint is cheaper and ALMOST as good as tool dip.

centering the eye helps a lot, and adding a through-wire can keep your eye from pulling out (never happened to me, but I've heard of this in other heavy designs). I formed a little "keeper wire" from coat hanger material, that would *clip/pinch* onto the pipe threads (you may have a spare worker to position the eye at just the right moment, but my workers were not super reliable so I prepositioned the eye).

and whenever you add the eye, you may want to consider pre-threading a heavy ball swivel (like, the 400lb ones!), as the extra $1.50 can really improve your line management (off center eye, under load, with some side current... pipe weights can spin A LOT). if not on the sinker eye, might still be advisable on a short "handling leader" of tuna cord.

Thanks, valuable information for sure.

[gliderflyer]

I can bring another canopy and just grabbed another dozen DR eyes to bring.

[Rifleman]

  Oh Boy,
I have a bunch of eyes for jig molds. Have some zinc plated DR eyes but brass 1 3/8 screw eyes would be better. Any hardware store should have them. Will bring  3 tables, a canopy and Blueberry dump cake with whipping cream. Should have some lead.   Rifleman

[FishBio]

If anyone is going to the lead pour from the Mukilteo area, I probably have more than 50 lbs to donate to the cause, just let me know.

Did anyone grab that lead Mark? I could arrange transport if Mooch didn't buzz over.
-Grant

[FishBio]

Do we need eyes for the weights?  Cods and DR balls

How about hooks for jigs?  Anything else??    10 days   

I have a bunch of #2 eyes and about 30 downrigger ball eyes. I have 50 or so wire forms for 4 oz flutter jigs and another 50 9/0 jig hooks for ultra minnow jigs. Shawn sent along a lot of wire forms for his diamond jig molds. I'd say we're all set for eyes and wire forms but it never hurts to bring more. Bring a little cash to trade for eyes if you don't have any.

[Mooch]

If anyone is going to the lead pour from the Mukilteo area, I probably have more than 50 lbs to donate to the cause, just let me know.

Did anyone grab that lead Mark? I could arrange transport if Mooch didn't buzz over.
-Grant

Grant, check PM.

[disposable]

I'm assuming no one is driving through Santa Barbara right? I have a couple things left over from the business that might help... but shipping likely would kill the buzz

[FishBio]

I'll be on a 7:50am ferry from Fauntleroy. We have a couple spots open in the truck if anyone wants to carpool and share the ferry fare. Let me know if you're interested and we'll save you a seat!

[Mooch]

FWIW, I'll have some 1/2 and 3/4 copper pipe for pipe jigs available for swap or purchase, if interested.  I'm trolling for some hooks for those fishy lead head jig molds. 😉

[FishBio]

FWIW, I'll have some 1/2 and 3/4 copper pipe for pipe jigs available for swap or purchase, if interested.  I'm trolling for some hooks for those fishy lead head jig molds. 😉

I just counted and I have 100 jig hooks. More than I thought, more than I need. You're welcome to a bunch. They're like 75 cents.

[GregE]

Lots of gear, propane, Pizza and comradery!!  Jigs and weights and fish stories abound also.

A special thanks to Cracker Box Joe who not only hosted us but provided pizza and drinks. 

[BayWolf]

Had a really good time. It was great meeting all of you and thanks for the lessons, tips and great stories!  I not only learned to pour lead, I also found out about "Dump Cake".  Thanks Russ, it was delicious!  And special thanks to Crackerbox and Mrs. for making us feel so welcome and allowing such a motley crew to hang out and cook lead.

[davidsea]

  Way to go, guys!  That's what makes this site great.

[Crackerbox]

Thank you for coming everyone, it was a great to meet everyone and learn something new.

Joe