1989 Sea Sprinter soft top. 89 Honda 70 Runs and pees well. No kicker. Hull and wood are in good condition. Trailer has some rust but is still good. No electronics, no upgrades.
Please give me a ballpark number and anything in particular to look at with this year and model.
Located in the Tacoma WA (Pacific Northwest)
Thanks
Without seeing it.....(and you're going to get a lot of varying opinions from our group)
my :twocents:
Ball Parks...
750 Trailer
3500 Boat
What is motor? 4 stroke or 2 Stroke
If 4 Stroke & clean low hours $2K to 3 K
If 2 Stroke 1K to 1.5K
Often said: "Advice is only worth what you pay for it"
LVR
Thanks. It's a Honda 4 stroke.
I know it's hard without seeing it. Just wanting to know around what they are worth.
Since I have very little experience with Arimas. Is the Sea Sprinter a less desirable, and therefor much cheaper Arima? Do they have inherent issues?
Not going to hold anyone's feet to the fire, I just want some better informed people to give me some ideas as to value range.
Careful with that curiosity stuff :shrug9:
Sometimes it's better saying how much they are asking for it because the guys will pick it apart and tell you why "that's too much"... :biggrin:
Hahahahaha! Ok, I get it.
They are asking $3900.00
Thanks for any input.
It would seem that if you could swoop it up for less than 4 you would be in good shape... much more and your in the realm of preety good to fair deal...might be able to get 6-8k in the spring/summer...
It is local so no transportation cost...
Tax and registration fees might be considered as well...
Cool. Thanks.
I sold mine for $6000
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on January 07, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
I sold mine for $6000
Thank you,
Was it basic or all the bells and whistles at that price?
Among other things, he had replaced all the panels with starboard... The residue from which he managed to track through the house, which, in turn, got him busy constructing a roomy dog house..... :jester:
StreamFixer
Hahahahaha!
Ok, hear is the "rest of the story.
The boat is being sold by the grandkids. Grand dad was original owner (1989). I has been sitting in a a car port for two years, but was serviced (so they say) before it was sat. Hull has a repair up front, they think is superficial and caused by the trailer. It has a 40hp Honda. It was repowered, but they don't know when or the age/hours on the boat.
It is titled in Cali. Was brought here and not retitled here yet.
Says the wood is weathered and it has a FF that looks like it is from the 80's. Fuel was drained and replaced this summer. Motor was run on muffs.
All the lights work on the boat and trailer.
So, that's as much detail as I have been able to glean. What say you guys.
I think I saw this boat advertised last summer... a buddy of mine was interested but never got a response to his inquiries about it.
My take from the photos he showed me... it is a little bit of a risky project (based on what they were asking back then), but if it turns out that everything is on the up and up, it could be a nice deal. Sprinters are rare, and if you need an open bow pocket fisher, you have to jump on deals like this when they come up.
I would offer them $3500, contingent on the motor passing a mechanical inspection, and see what they say. You cover the cost of the inspection (likely $200 or so from a Honda dealer) and they get a copy of it.
That said, proceed cautiously... if this is the boat I am thinking about, it was on the market last summer on Craigslist. It didn't sell then, so I'd go over it with a fine toothed comb.
Quote from: BayWolf on January 07, 2015, 05:23:49 PM
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on January 07, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
I sold mine for $6000
Thank you,
Was it basic or all the bells and whistles at that price?
Pretty basic because I moved everything to the new boat. It had a nice 2003 F50 Yamaha outboard and no kicker.
Without pictures and not knowing the hours/condition of the motor....but it is a 4-stroke (I'm guessing carbureted so it would require a good going through and most likely the carb's rebuilt).
I'd pull the upper plug on the lower unit to check the condition of the fluid. If it's milky...now the lower end need going through in addition to a new impeller).
Does it have power trim /tilt? does it work?
Motor...$1500
The HULL had a collision with something hard enough to require a repair? How does the repair look? RTV with paint?...or done properly and you can't even tell it was there?
Hull $1500 MAYBE $1800
I would not allow anything for the antiquated electronics,
Minimal on the trailer ($700-750). Maybe even closer to $500.
For a total I'd guess try to get it for no more than $2800 BUT...if you really wanted it you could go as high as $3200.
I would not give them the full asking price as you do not know the extent of motor and possibly hull work needing to be done.
But hey...what do I know...I paid $2700 for my Chaser and it had a lot of things wrong with it. ...and that was WITHOUT a trailer!!
BTW...I have not stopped working on it since the day I brought it home. ALWAYS a project going on. Wish I'd just bought a new one to start with...
But then you would have just wasted your time and money fishing and getting out on the water... Just what do you think a boat is for anyway Terry??? :hoboy:
And think how bored we would be without all your projects to make us grateful that they are your projects and not ours :biggrin: :biggrin:
StreamFixer
Quote from: StreamFixer on January 07, 2015, 07:15:00 PM
But then you would have just wasted your time and money fishing and getting out on the water... Just what do you think a boat is for anyway Terry??? :hoboy:
And think how bored we would be without all your projects to make us grateful that they are your projects and not ours :biggrin: :biggrin:
StreamFixer
Gee thanks Russ...
I'm just getting tired of working on it and having to complete this or that before I can get it on the water.
The wife is far more tired of it than I am...she keeps saying to sell the damn thing and buy a new boat.
Then I can use it, wash it, and put it away for the next time instead of repair it, use it, wash it, repair something else, then put it away for the next time.
Oh well...it is what it is.... :shrug9:
My project list for the winter boat work is only 12 items long (so far). That is in addition to the Honey Due list that must be completed before springer season gets here....
I think the best deal would be to sell it to a neighbor for an exorbitant price with a rider clause that the neighbor keep it washed, cleaned, maintained, repaired and available to take you fishing whenever you wish... and you only buy your share of the fuel & bait.
I am still looking for that neighbor myself :doh:
StreamFixer
If it's close to you, you like it, and you can get it for less than 4,000. BUY IT !!! It probably won't be on the market long
GoodDays Greg
Take it out on the lake and make sure it runs and steers and all items function or else knock the price for the repairs.
Quote from: Salmon King on January 07, 2015, 07:09:56 PM
Without pictures and not knowing the hours/condition of the motor....but it is a 4-stroke (I'm guessing carbureted so it would require a good going through and most likely the carb's rebuilt).
I'd pull the upper plug on the lower unit to check the condition of the fluid. If it's milky...now the lower end need going through in addition to a new impeller).
Does it have power trim /tilt? does it work?
Motor...$1500
The HULL had a collision with something hard enough to require a repair? How does the repair look? RTV with paint?...or done properly and you can't even tell it was there?
Hull $1500 MAYBE $1800
I would not allow anything for the antiquated electronics,
Minimal on the trailer ($700-750). Maybe even closer to $500.
For a total I'd guess try to get it for no more than $2800 BUT...if you really wanted it you could go as high as $3200.
I would not give them the full asking price as you do not know the extent of motor and possibly hull work needing to be done.
But hey...what do I know...I paid $2700 for my Chaser and it had a lot of things wrong with it. ...and that was WITHOUT a trailer!!
BTW...I have not stopped working on it since the day I brought it home. ALWAYS a project going on. Wish I'd just bought a new one to start with...
$1500+1500+500=$2800.... huh? :whistle:
-Shawn
I thinks I will pass on this one...
I was intending on trying a turn around to see if I could make enough to help with a kicker for my 19. But even if I can get it for $2800, which is $1100 below what their asking, it doesn't seem like there is enough in it to make it worth the trouble.
The real bargains don't show up often. This web site is probably on of the reasons ..... :biggrin:
We've stayed close to breaking even on our boat adventures- until you add the hours of effort into the equation.
Quote from: wedocq on January 09, 2015, 06:59:01 AM
Quote from: Salmon King on January 07, 2015, 07:09:56 PM
Without pictures and not knowing the hours/condition of the motor....but it is a 4-stroke (I'm guessing carbureted so it would require a good going through and most likely the carb's rebuilt).
I'd pull the upper plug on the lower unit to check the condition of the fluid. If it's milky...now the lower end need going through in addition to a new impeller).
Does it have power trim /tilt? does it work?
Motor...$1500
The HULL had a collision with something hard enough to require a repair? How does the repair look? RTV with paint?...or done properly and you can't even tell it was there?
Hull $1500 MAYBE $1800
I would not allow anything for the antiquated electronics,
Minimal on the trailer ($700-750). Maybe even closer to $500.
For a total I'd guess try to get it for no more than $2800 BUT...if you really wanted it you could go as high as $3200.
I would not give them the full asking price as you do not know the extent of motor and possibly hull work needing to be done.
But hey...what do I know...I paid $2700 for my Chaser and it had a lot of things wrong with it. ...and that was WITHOUT a trailer!!
BTW...I have not stopped working on it since the day I brought it home. ALWAYS a project going on. Wish I'd just bought a new one to start with...
$1500+1500+500=$2800.... huh? :whistle:
-Shawn
Shawn...I was showing my guesstimate of the value and then saying what I might offer to get a bargin on it. Not demonstrating my lack of mathmatical prowess...
Sorry I didn't make that clear enough....it was clear in my mind though! :doh:
Let someone else buy it. It's getting really lame that the average working guy has so much trouble finding a great deal on an Arima because of this trend of buying up all the good Arima's and marking up and selling for more. I know some guys are going to defend their actions, but, bottom line, someone else who is looking to buy an Arima has a very hard time finding that good deal since some guys are constantly searching for their next boat to flip. Just seems selfish.
I understand. I looked for a long time to find my boat. This little sea sprinter has been in the market for a long time. I guess if it was such a good buy it would of already been sold. It's like everything else, you get what you pay for.
I looked hard for my boat as well and was ready to pounce when I found it.
If folks don't want to put in the proper effort to find the boat, then they pay more. Either invest time to become educated and be ready to pull the trigger or pay for the time and effort of those who are...
Not everyone can be on craigslist all day everyday. And when you combine that with living in BC, it makes it quite hard to find and close a deal on a boat in WA. Anyways, just my thoughts.
That's the way of the world unfortunately - holds true with anything there's a demand for. I think there is a way to set up Craigslist to notify you of a posting you're interested in. Don't know how to do that but I hear it's possible. You could put a "wanted" posting into Craigslist. You never know...
Totally get it...it is a tough market for sure. I drove to California for our boat...
I drove to Vancouver BC for mine! :jester:
We remember :facepalm:. It's California that you want to get boats from not BC. How are you going to wave to all us Canucks at Nooka etc if we have fewer Arimas? :jester:
You gotta know the market and move fast to get a deal, no time to post here and ask about it. If it's still on the market after a few days, it's not that good of a deal. Around here at least.
I wasn't planning on buying a boat the day I spores mine. It was a Sunday and a huge pain in the arse to get cash. Had to call 3 banks. But I knew it maybe my only shot to get one. Of course it was easier since I knew I had my Yami to swap so o didn't really care how it ran but I still demanded an on water test.
Running on the hose doesn't mean squat. Been burned twice on motors that way. Gotta be under load.
It helps if your buddies are looking out for deals for you and will let you know ASAP when they come up. Don't limit your search to Craigslist in your area, check Portland (lots of Arimas there), Vancouver BC (favorable exchange rate), Eastern Washington/West Idaho (all freshwater use) and even Texas and California. Also look at Boat Trader and whatever newspapers in your area that have boat classifieds.
I got a call one morning at 6am from SFF about a 21HT for sale in Vancouver, listed at $30k CAD. I waited until 8am to call the fellow then jumped in my car and headed to the border. I was the first to call and the first to arrive but he'd had a lot of calls while I was en-route. I tried to pay him with a check from my bank which was the same as his but the bank puts a 10 day hold on international transactions. So I left a small cash deposit (and the boat) and came back to Seattle where my bank had to "order" the $27k USD cash for me so I had to wait a couple of days. I went back to Vancouver with over $10k on Wednesday, so had the border hassle of declaring that it was not drug money and trailered the boat home. It was a 21 Alaskan Bulkhead HT with 130 Honda 350 hrs, new 9.9 Honda with pro troll, dual controls and no signs of use, sitting on a tandem trailer with new Kodiak stainless disc brakes.
Don't even get me started on what we went through to get our baby back from Maine! I'm sure some of you will recall that odyssey thread!
Arima's hold a higher than normal resale value. If you're looking to get a bank to finance a used one, be prepared to be shocked, because they will balk most times at the age of the boat and what you're asking for.
I agree, it all comes down to how bad you want a top quality well made boat and how much work you're willing to put into it. There are millions of "other" boats listed everyday, and if someone just wants a boat it's an easy way to get one.
In addition to the ones listed already. Another place to look is "Offerup.com" The younger gen. is using that more than Craigs and they never use print anymore.
Thanks for the "offer up" link. Just what I need to add to my Craigslist obsession. (Did you see that Wedocq?) :clap:
Is this the boat this thread is referring to?
https://offerupnow.com/item/detail/8190509/15ft-sea-sprinter-fishing-boat
It's California that you want to get boats from not BC.
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I looked at LivR's boat on the way through California - the first used one I saw (saw new one's in Victoria, BC). I really liked his boat, but today, I paid $1.23 Canadian for a US dollar. California may be a great deal for us British Columbian's, but being retired with a limited income, it is probably not a great time to buy a boat for me, unless it is grossly undervalued. and I don't know what to look for in a used boat as I have been out of the boat game for over 30 years. I paid $1950.00 Canadian for a 70 hp Johnson installed on my boat in 1976 :bigshock:
Now is a great time for US citizens to buy in Canada!
M D
So. That sprinter has been for sale for a while...what's wrong with it? Seems like a decent value..?
Baywolf: did you see it in person? What's your impression?
Just curious...wife won't alow another boat in the driveway...
Tawny is set at $3900 on the boat. She said it is worth $5100.
I didn't go look at it. Didn't meet my needs.
I though the "new" boat thing was pretty much a self induced, done deal?
Quote from: Salmon King on January 07, 2015, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: StreamFixer on January 07, 2015, 07:15:00 PM
But then you would have just wasted your time and money fishing and getting out on the water... Just what do you think a boat is for anyway Terry??? :hoboy:
And think how bored we would be without all your projects to make us grateful that they are your projects and not ours :biggrin: :biggrin:
StreamFixer
Gee thanks Russ...
I'm just getting tired of working on it and having to complete this or that before I can get it on the water.
The wife is far more tired of it than I am...she keeps saying to sell the damn thing and buy a new boat.
Then I can use it, wash it, and put it away for the next time instead of repair it, use it, wash it, repair something else, then put it away for the next time.
Oh well...it is what it is.... :shrug9:
Quote from: rasslingref on January 13, 2015, 07:15:04 PM
Tawny is set at $3900 on the boat. She said it is worth $5100.
Can't really argue with that...
This boat was sold today. No details
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Hi guys. I'm a first time Arima owner. I just bought the Sea Sprinter that was listed on offer up for $3900. It took some persistence and sweet talking, but, I ended up getting it for $3000. The damage that a previous posting mentioned is actually a spot where the gel coat was rubbed off by the upright guides on the trailer. Not bad at all. The motor is beautiful inside and out and started and ran perfectly. The wood inside is slightly faded but otherwise in perfect condition. This boat looks like it was well loved. I grew up in Auburn where these boats were made and I've been wanting one for years. Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Congratulations, and you got quite the bargain. Be sure to check in here for suggestions on upgrades, trailer improvements, electronics- basically anything that spends your money! :jester: