This just in...
https://www.facebook.com/ArimaBoats/posts/3228785167148718 (https://www.facebook.com/ArimaBoats/posts/3228785167148718)
For you guys without facebook...
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Looks pretty slick!
From what I can see, it looks like there's a little bit of dash space on this one for mounting electronics. That's one of my only qualms about the Sea Chaser, although I still can't wait to buy one...
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Take my money!!!
A couple larger pics. Click on it to enlarge
I predict this is going to Raise Arima sales- except Yat is going to want it 5" longer
The real question is are they going to sell me just the pilot house and what's it going to cost me ?
Thing looks pretty rad .
Nice work arima factory !
Haha..........I think you know 'exactly' what Yat wants, Greg. BTW, you want to raise sales?............Read below.
Yat
Yat, you may be next! :jester:
What's the price tag on one?
Estimated $2500 more than a SC 19 HT according to the FB thread
I would guess fifties, depending on power. Looks like they are tapping into more of the So. Cal market with this one. I would sure like to have that. Would be the only boat I need.
That is a big dance floor. Just need a disco ball. :cha:
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 12, 2019, 12:19:51 PM
I would guess fifties, depending on power. Looks like they are tapping into more of the So. Cal market with this one. I would sure like to have that. Would be the only boat I need.
:yeahthat: :party017:
Would love that on a 21' ST and have the roof be a foot or two longer.
Are there any measurements on the ceiling height ?
So, it looks like they removed the windshield on the 19SC and gave it a new top? Is that correct?
Yat
Yat, that looks like the major upgrade - it'll be nice to see a complete spec/options lists. But that top addresses a lot of concerns about the standard HT. It seems quite a bit taller, and with the pilothouse window configuration there's a ton of room up there. I'm not tall enough to complain about the standard HT height in terms of headroom, but it always has felt a little claustrophobic under one. Put some sliders in those side windows and you've got the best of all worlds.
I'm also loving the hull color! Makes bottom painting a lot more palatable.
Also added a hatch to the mini cuddy so you can reach the anchor box.
https://www.defiancemarine.com/inventory/v1/Current/Arima/FWD-Cuddy/Sea-Chaser-19/Base--Bremerton-Washington---12575581
And what appears to be full length spray rails.
I think those are the standard chines- just masked off from hull paint
My Comment was that it needed to be on a SeaRanger set up so it didnt look so chunky
Greg
Quote from: GregE on December 12, 2019, 11:02:58 AM
.....except Yat is going to want it 5" longer
That's a lot to ask for.
🤔
Yeah, I'd be curious about the head room as well. I hope they went generously. And I also think that roof could be longer to get at least your back into the dry and parts of a companion seat. Otherwise this is cats ass!
I would totally replace my hardtop with that one.
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Quote from: mustang65fbk on December 12, 2019, 12:53:48 PM
Would love that on a 21' ST and have the roof be a foot or two longer.
Yeah
Quote from: Tj805 on December 12, 2019, 11:09:25 AM
The real question is are they going to sell me just the pilot house and what's it going to cost me ?
Thing looks pretty rad .
Nice work arima factory !
I don't get on here very often but happened to visit and check the site today. I will try to do better about keeping you guys up to date better than I have in the past. With three boat brands and a Boat Dealership that I am running I do not have as much time to visit with you guys as I would like and Don spends even less time on the computer than I do. But I will try to do better. In answer to this question... Yes. We will offer this as a retrofit for "upgrade aficionados" once we get everything dialed in well with the new boats. It is about a $2500 upgrade but that includes a deduct for no windshield, or canvas and drop curtain that is included in our "New Boat Pricing". So it will be more for buying after the fact and installing on a current boat. I am guessing it will probably be close to $5,000 to buy the top section for add on after the fact. Don't hold me to that, I just don't want guys getting their hopes up about a $2,500 upgrade because it will be substantially more than that if it is bought aftermarket.
Quote from: cohosalmon on December 12, 2019, 03:37:59 PM
Yeah, I'd be curious about the head room as well. I hope they went generously. And I also think that roof could be longer to get at least your back into the dry and parts of a companion seat. Otherwise this is cats ass!
Headroom is 6' 4" so we made sure to get good height for the tall customers.
Quote from: Svinny88 on December 12, 2019, 11:56:15 AM
What's the price tag on one?
You will have to get pricing from a local dealer and pricing is going to depend on how it is optioned up. But our goal was to design this boat and keep the cost down so that it can be retailed close to or under the $50,000 mark. But if anyone is interested in a quote please contact a local dealer and we can help you get more specific pricing.
Quote from: Defiance on December 12, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
You will have to get pricing from a local dealer and pricing is going to depend on how it is optioned up. But our goal was to design this boat and keep the cost down so that it can be retailed close to or under the $50,000 mark. But if anyone is interested in a quote please contact a local dealer and we can help you get more specific pricing.
Belinda Bo, you mentioned Sacramento in the FB post. Any chance you'll have one of these in person at the Portland and Seattle shows? And just curious, is this one spoken for yet?
Looks good. 😉.
Quote from: ohmytodd on December 12, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
Quote from: Defiance on December 12, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
You will have to get pricing from a local dealer and pricing is going to depend on how it is optioned up. But our goal was to design this boat and keep the cost down so that it can be retailed close to or under the $50,000 mark. But if anyone is interested in a quote please contact a local dealer and we can help you get more specific pricing.
Belinda, you mentioned Sacramento in the FB post. Any chance you'll have one of these in person at the Portland and Seattle shows? And just curious, is this one spoken for yet?
"Defiance" is Bo Palmer (Owner)
I stand corrected, Howdy, Bo! That's a heck of nice new boat you've got there ;)
I may not need that impending case of 2-foot-itis after all with a lid like that.
Has it been confirmed that this new boat is a 19? Sure does look like it but I don't recall seeing it mentioned anywhere
If this sells well maybe we'll see one for a hardtop Sea Ranger.
I'm a firm believer in forward sloping windows on any vessel. 300'+ to 15'. It helps with the glare on your electronics.
Any dealers in the northeast? Nj,pa, Ohio?
Quote from: ohmytodd on December 12, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
Quote from: Defiance on December 12, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
You will have to get pricing from a local dealer and pricing is going to depend on how it is optioned up. But our goal was to design this boat and keep the cost down so that it can be retailed close to or under the $50,000 mark. But if anyone is interested in a quote please contact a local dealer and we can help you get more specific pricing.
Belinda Bo, you mentioned Sacramento in the FB post. Any chance you'll have one of these in person at the Portland and Seattle shows? And just curious, is this one spoken for yet?
We will have one at the Sacramento Boat Show (Bucks Outboard) and at the Seattle Boat Show for sure. We also are planning to have one at the Fred Hall Shows in Southern California. Portland Boat is a possibility but I am not sure right now.
That thing looks great!
And I'm the next person to ask... where is the 21'?
I am a fan of forward sloped windows and am happy to see the evolution of the arima line but am I the only one thinking that's one heck of a big sail to catch the wind when fishing? :anyone:
I think I will stick with the 19 SR Skiptop. Looking forward to seeing what the fanatics get up to with this new style.
Thanks Bo. We do have some astute folks hanging around here.
Quote from: Defiance on December 12, 2019, 06:28:16 PM
Quote from: ohmytodd on December 12, 2019, 05:01:03 PM
Quote from: Defiance on December 12, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
You will have to get pricing from a local dealer and pricing is going to depend on how it is optioned up. But our goal was to design this boat and keep the cost down so that it can be retailed close to or under the $50,000 mark. But if anyone is interested in a quote please contact a local dealer and we can help you get more specific pricing.
Belinda Bo, you mentioned Sacramento in the FB post. Any chance you'll have one of these in person at the Portland and Seattle shows? And just curious, is this one spoken for yet?
We will have one at the Sacramento Boat Show (Bucks Outboard) and at the Seattle Boat Show for sure. We also are planning to have one at the Fred Hall Shows in Southern California. Portland Boat is a possibility but I am not sure right now.
I was about to ask that question if you were going to bring it to the FHS, can't wait to see it, just a few months away :mememe:
Nice look'n rig for sure. Looks like the skylights are translucent or maybe transparent / tinted. Are they removeable?
Hunter,
They are the same roof panels that are on the hardtops.
Looks like I set the trend :party017:
Question is are they going to Hook me up with one :mememe:
I wonder if this will be an option on a future 17SC?
For me, there's not quite enough fuel capacity on a 17' (27 gal.). I always carry a 6 gallon jerry can to fish Catalina.
The 19 has 48 gallons, which is plenty to get me from Long Beach California, to Catalina Island to fish for Yellowtail, and return.
The name "Yellowtail" is perfect for this boat. 👍🏻
Needs the Arima bait tank. 🤔
Quote from: Defiance on December 12, 2019, 04:30:35 PM
Quote from: cohosalmon on December 12, 2019, 03:37:59 PM
Yeah, I'd be curious about the head room as well. I hope they went generously. And I also think that roof could be longer to get at least your back into the dry and parts of a companion seat. Otherwise this is cats ass!
Headroom is 6' 4" so we made sure to get good height for the tall customers.
Interesting. The pictures make the top look much taller than an inside height of 6'4" tall. I'm 6'2" tall but my buddy and uncle are both 6'4"-6'5" tall and fish with them a good deal. Between that and the price of almost $5k I'll probably pass. Pretty cool option for those buying a new boat though and looks pretty slick. I would like it if the roof was longer in length though. As one of the other members stated, the back of the roof looks like it cuts off halfway through the driver and passenger seats. I'd like it to be extended longer at least past the drivers seat and maybe even covering the rear seats as well.
That's a beautiful sight to see! I have always admired the Defiance yellowtail is one of my favorite boats so I am really excited to see something similar but on the tried and true Arima hull!
Just noticed. Do any of those windows open?
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Quote from: ThePatriot on December 14, 2019, 05:07:45 PM
Just noticed. Do any of those windows open?
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I don't believe so. It looks like from the pictures that the windows don't open up, although there are two overheard panels up on the roof that are removable, kind of like what the regular HT's have.
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Quote from: Hunter on December 13, 2019, 05:53:27 AM
Nice look'n rig for sure. Looks like the skylights are translucent or maybe transparent / tinted. Are they removeable?
Hunter they are the standard fiberglass panels on all hard tops according to Belinda's post.
Definately in favor of a longer roof past storage seat location when the add them.
Bad move in my opinion not having windows that open. When buying my SRHT I was concerned if I would cook in the summer. Having windows that slide open saves me in July and Aug. I would also love the windshield glass to tilt up or open in some way. U really need airflow in the summer. Big turnoff for that new hard top not to have windows that open.
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Upon first sight , I really liked this, but the more I think about the windows that don't open, and the roof skylights that I really don't care for, I think if I went with a pilothouse type boat, it would probably be from another manufacturer, probably Steiger or Parker, even though I would like to add another arima to the fleet, if I do it would have to be a skip top.
Maybe you could order the Arima Yellowtail with Parker type windows. 🤷🏼♂️
...or maybe they already are considering this option ?
I agree with the previous posts. While this is an awesome new Arima model, for us in Nor Cal, or So Cal, the sun in the summer would be unbearable with fixed windows. I often fish in weather well over 90 degrees, and some days over 100 degrees. As CS said, maybe this is something that is being considered by Defiance as the model hasn't officially been released yet. Sliding side windows would be a huge benefit, and really make this boat. Even if the cost has to be adjusted accordingly, I'm sure people wouldn't mind to get the sliding side windows. The sliding windows should be standard on a boat of this caliber. Would make a good, smaller alternative to a Parker 2120.
Does anyone find the roof hatches useful on the hardtop arimas? Where do you store them if they are removed?
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 15, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
I agree with the previous posts. While this is an awesome new Arima model, for us in Nor Cal, or So Cal, the sun in the summer would be unbearable with fixed windows. I often fish in weather well over 90 degrees, and some days over 100 degrees. As CS said, maybe this is something that is being considered by Defiance as the model hasn't officially been released yet. Sliding side windows would be a huge benefit, and really make this boat. Even if the cost has to be adjusted accordingly, I'm sure people wouldn't mind to get the sliding side windows. The sliding windows should be standard on a boat of this caliber. Would make a good, smaller alternative to a Parker 2120.
I spend a lot of time fishing Southern California and disagree with the need for front opener windows. It is cooler (because of the shade that it gives) than a Center Console or windshield boat. I have already built and sold a bunch of this style of boat in my Defiance Line in Southern California and the customers love them. They have a huge cult following. But the boat was very complicated to build and was not as stable as the Arima Hull so this boat is going to be perfect for guys wanting to fish the kelps and run to the islands with some protection from the weather.
That being said it would be no problem to do front openers on the boat. But the front openers are expensive and we are trying to keep the costs down on this model. Many of our Defiance Owners in San Diego and Los Angeles don't even get front openers on our Defiance Boats which are fully enclosed. They are very comfortable even in the summer. Also we could do side Slider windows but this would be expensive as well. With the open back it draws in plenty of cool air in my opinion but if you want front openers or side sliders...no problem. It is very easy to install them and they could even be added down the road if someone wanted as they would fit the same cutout.
Quote from: Svinny88 on December 15, 2019, 04:06:13 PM
Does anyone find the roof hatches useful on the hardtop arimas? Where do you store them if they are removed?
They can easily be stored up in the cuddy area. On a nice day when you are certain that any spray won't be coming up over the top.... it is really nice to have the open extra ventilation and extra light...
Quote from: Defiance on December 15, 2019, 05:09:38 PM
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 15, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
I agree with the previous posts. While this is an awesome new Arima model, for us in Nor Cal, or So Cal, the sun in the summer would be unbearable with fixed windows. I often fish in weather well over 90 degrees, and some days over 100 degrees. As CS said, maybe this is something that is being considered by Defiance as the model hasn't officially been released yet. Sliding side windows would be a huge benefit, and really make this boat. Even if the cost has to be adjusted accordingly, I'm sure people wouldn't mind to get the sliding side windows. The sliding windows should be standard on a boat of this caliber. Would make a good, smaller alternative to a Parker 2120.
I spend a lot of time fishing Southern California and disagree with the need for front opener windows. It is cooler (because of the shade that it gives) than a Center Console or windshield boat. I have already built and sold a bunch of this style of boat in my Defiance Line in Southern California and the customers love them. They have a huge cult following. But the boat was very complicated to build and was not as stable as the Arima Hull so this boat is going to be perfect for guys wanting to fish the kelps and run to the islands with some protection from the weather.
That being said it would be no problem to do front openers on the boat. But the front openers are expensive and we are trying to keep the costs down on this model. Many of our Defiance Owners in San Diego and Los Angeles don't even get front openers on our Defiance Boats which are fully enclosed. They are very comfortable even in the summer. Also we could do side Slider windows but this would be expensive as well. With the open back it draws in plenty of cool air in my opinion but if you want front openers or side sliders...no problem. It is very easy to install them and they could even be added down the road if someone wanted as they would fit the same cutout.
My take on this is that options are always better. Slider opening windows on the sides cannot be that expensive of an add on. When spending $50K + on a boat, an additional few dollars for side sliders would be a complete no brainer in my opinion.
I guess it depends where and how you fish. I live in Oregon. I spend time drifting on the ocean for halibut and sometimes anchor fishing on the river. The open back with windows that don't open would be brutal. In fact on hot days I'll open the cabin hatch to create airflow.
The roof hatches are nice in theory but I've only taken them off twice.
I love the look of the new top. I also love that there's 6'4 of headroom. I'm 6'2 so this is really exciting. If the side windows did have an option to open I would be all over a retrofit.
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Bo is offering it both ways. 🤷🏼♂️
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on December 15, 2019, 05:47:35 PM
Bo is offering it both ways. 🤷🏼♂️
We can do just about anything. It is a little extra money but all of our boats have lots of options and it is rare when I tell a customer that wants to give us some money no :)
Great news I look forward to seeing it.
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My 2 cents... I had a love hate relationship with my c Dory cabin. As stated before, front pop outs would be a definite for me. Even with the side sliders and back door open I found it was not enough air flow when trolling or anchored... I even added fans to try to get air moving. The other side of that coin is to allow air to escape on those windy days...
But I digress. She sure is beautiful !!!! Hope your sales go through the roof....pun intended... :clap:
Quote from: Svinny88 on December 15, 2019, 01:52:30 PM
Upon first sight , I really liked this, but the more I think about the windows that don't open, and the roof skylights that I really don't care for, I think if I went with a pilothouse type boat, it would probably be from another manufacturer, probably Steiger or Parker, even though I would like to add another arima to the fleet, if I do it would have to be a skip top.
I don't believe they're skylights... I believe those are just the empty holes where the removable roof panels will go.
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on December 15, 2019, 02:29:17 PM
Maybe you could order the Arima Yellowtail with Parker type windows. 🤷🏼♂️
...or maybe they already are considering this option ?
I love nearly everything about the Parker pilothouse boats like the one you pictured except for the drop down entryway to the cockpit. To me, if you're fishing while driving and have a bite on you're going to kill yourself trying to jump up two steps and run through a small doorway to get to the rod. One of the many things I love about the Arima's is that the floor is all one level, no steps or stairs or doors to squeeze through. Although Parker does have a walk around version of their boats, similar to a Grady White, but I'd take the Grady over the Parker any day of the week.
Quote from: Defiance on December 15, 2019, 05:09:38 PM
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 15, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
I agree with the previous posts. While this is an awesome new Arima model, for us in Nor Cal, or So Cal, the sun in the summer would be unbearable with fixed windows. I often fish in weather well over 90 degrees, and some days over 100 degrees. As CS said, maybe this is something that is being considered by Defiance as the model hasn't officially been released yet. Sliding side windows would be a huge benefit, and really make this boat. Even if the cost has to be adjusted accordingly, I'm sure people wouldn't mind to get the sliding side windows. The sliding windows should be standard on a boat of this caliber. Would make a good, smaller alternative to a Parker 2120.
Many of our Defiance Owners in San Diego and Los Angeles don't even get front openers on our Defiance Boats which are fully enclosed.
True, but don't most Defiance boats come with A/C?
Quote from: ThePatriot on December 15, 2019, 05:39:02 PM
I guess it depends where and how you fish. I live in Oregon. I spend time drifting on the ocean for halibut and sometimes anchor fishing on the river. The open back with windows that don't open would be brutal. In fact on hot days I'll open the cabin hatch to create airflow.
The roof hatches are nice in theory but I've only taken them off twice.
I love the look of the new top. I also love that there's 6'4 of headroom. I'm 6'2 so this is really exciting. If the side windows did have an option to open I would be all over a retrofit.
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Agreed. I had a 21' SR HT and with being 6'2" tall as well, it wasn't a lot of fun standing underneath the hardtop. You had to either slouch or lean over to stand underneath and I'd always hit my head on the ceiling. The sliding windows didn't seem to make much of a difference and the roof hatches are a bit of a pain to take off and on and store in the cabin on the boat, if you have room for them, as they take up a decent amount of space. That and if you're fair complected like I am, they shield you from the sun and elements. Taking them off on a hot, sunny day could get you pretty baked and dehydrated rather quickly. Kind of defeats the purpose for having a hardtop in the first place. I'd rather see pop open front windows and maybe roof hatches that are secured on the front half but open a couple inches in height on the rear. That way you don't have to take them off each time and they can still allow air to flow out. I'd love to see a slightly taller and much longer version of this top on a 21' SR HT boat and with the front opening windows. Hey look, post number 1,000 for me :jester:
I think the roof should be kept solid and offer it as an add on option for the customer, but make the pop out windows standard. Sounds like the pop out windows would get more use then removable tops.
It's kind of like my friends safari VW bus with a ragtop. He would pop open the front windows on hot days rather than rolling back the top, better air flow and kept the inside a lot cooler.
I think it is smart to make this model so that the offering price is as low as possible.
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on December 16, 2019, 11:40:58 AM
I think it is smart to make this model so that the offering price is as low as possible.
Agreed. But the must have add-ons adds up quickly. $$$
Everyone wanting a special, put in your order now!!!! Prove to Arima that they got it wrong!
I'm curious....how many of our members have purchased a new Arima? Not me!!!
I'll give Arima the benefit of the doubt and trust that they thought long and hard about what details should be standard. There is a lot to like about this design and I look forward to checking one out in person on the water someday.
I'm not a fan of the removable roof panels On all of the boats I've owned, hard or soft top , the top always stays up, and the front is usually necessary for spray, but the sides always get rolled up, or removed... or you roast on a summers day. The front center is always opened, along with any opening glass if equipped. At slow trolling speeds, all panels are removed, but after one trip baking in the sun on a boat without a Bimini , I defuse to fish all day in the sun without proper shade
Quote from: First Cabin on December 16, 2019, 12:25:39 PM
I'm curious....how many of our members have purchased a new Arima? Not me!!!
I bought my boat new a few years ago.
Bought mine in 2013. It was a brand new 2010 model.
J.
Saw the new boat on a truck heading south on I-5 this afternoon at JBLM with another Arima on the trailer also. Boat looks pretty sweet at first glimpse.
Quote from: desertdog on December 16, 2019, 04:27:30 PM
Saw the new boat on a truck heading south on I-5 this afternoon at JBLM with another Arima on the trailer also. Boat looks pretty sweet at first glimpse.
Probably on its way to Bucks in Sacramento? I may have to take a trip to go see it.
So...........Bo has money to invest in new molds? Hmmm........
Ha, Yat
Has anyone confirmed it is on its way to Bucks? Maybe I will take a ride to Sac this weekend... I want it
Quote from: 85seahunter on December 17, 2019, 01:04:25 PM
Has anyone confirmed it is on its way to Bucks? Maybe I will take a ride to Sac this weekend... I want it
I can confirm it is on its way to Bucks. Should arrive tomorrow. Bring your checkbook and tow vehicle. :party017:
Will do!!
Quote from: Fisherdv on December 12, 2019, 12:19:51 PM
I would guess fifties, depending on power. Looks like they are tapping into more of the So. Cal market with this one. I would sure like to have that. Would be the only boat I need.
Agreed socal influences for sure. Anderson custom boats and all the small clones and even the 17' whalers that guys build pilothouses on.
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Yup, here's a Pacific pilothouse on a Whaler....... as I mentioned in another thread, just enough to have protection from spray and wind, in warmer climates such as So. Cal., but not a fully enclosed HT. I think that's the concept with this new Yellowtail model.
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One of the main reasons I didn't pull the trigger on a hard top last purchase was because it feels too boxed in all the time. This concept might just be the solution. I hope this boat shows up at the Portland show this week, otherwise I may have another reason to go to Seattle.
You should verify they are going to have one at PDX or SEA before making the trip. Haven't seen notice they will ........
That boat is at Bucks Outboard in Sacramento, it will be at the ISE show in a few weeks in Sacramento. I have not heard of it making any other appearances. Then again it will be sold after ISE. :party017:
Quote from: GregE on January 06, 2020, 04:52:36 PM
You should verify they are going to have one at PDX or SEA before making the trip. Haven't seen notice they will ........
I'm heading to PDX tomorrow anyway to execute a trade for a nice pair of downriggers ;) If I come up to SEA it'll be mostly to drink beer with you guys, seeing the new Arima would be a bonus.
Unfortunately we are not able to get one to Y Marina in time to have it at the PDX Show. There will be one at Sacramento, Seattle and our dealer in San Diego just put one on order for the Fred Hall Shows so our assumption as of now is that there will be one at Fred Hall as well.
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Flew down to Sacramento this morning and had a little time to kill. Stopped at Bucks to see me Arima Yellow Tail. I'm 6'3 and love the head room.
It's to bad Defiance doesn't offer some sort of retrofit to get a SR hardtop raised 6 inches. There has to be a way.
I like the new top but it doesn't cover the rear seats. Looks nice though. I really liked the new grey hull color.
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Price?
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Flew down to Sacramento this morning and had a little time to kill. Stopped at Bucks to see me Arima Yellow Tail. I'm 6'3 and love the head room.
It's to bad Defiance doesn't offer some sort of retrofit to get a SR hardtop raised 6 inches. There has to be a way.
I like the new top but it doesn't cover the rear seats. Looks nice though. I really liked the new grey hull color.
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Exactly the issues I have with the SR HT. I'm 6'2" and can't even fit underneath the hardtop. I have a buddy and uncle that I fish with who are both 6'5" tall and couldn't even imagine trying to fish on a boat and being that tall.
Seattle Boat Show has one. With the AO gathering Tuesday we should have some fresh input..
For the height challenged in a SR HT- we don't stand in the cabin. Seated or moving slightly bent over and never felt constrained
I think the price was 49k with a 115 Yamaha.
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Here was a new sea ranger. 73k. 150 Yamaha and a kicker. No electronics.
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If you compare the Yellowtail model with the Yamaha at Bucks to the other Yellowtail with a Honda at the Seattle Boat Show it sure looks like they added over 6" in length to the back of the hard top. Maybe even more. Thats the only thing I did not like about the first Yellowtail.
85; So......tell us, please, how long is this "Yellowtail" we're looking at?
Yat
I'm loving the extra overhang in the rear, now we just need some sliding side windows and we've got a winner.
Quote from: ohmytodd on January 28, 2020, 03:39:59 PM
I'm loving the extra overhang in the rear, now we just need some sliding side windows and we've got a winner.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
The one in Sacramento was a 19'
How hard would it be to extend the top support by 6"?
My understanding is that the hand rail and windows are the only thing that hold the top on.
Would it be that hard to add 6 inches aluminum to the top of the window frame and raise the whole top?
I would love to hear Defiance respond to this. i would be all over doing this type of retrofit.
Quote from: Yachter Yat on January 28, 2020, 03:35:00 PM
85; So......tell us, please, how long is this "Yellowtail" we're looking at?
Yat
That's a 19'
Thank you. That's what I thought.
Yat
I'm almost sold now that they have added the overhang. Just needs sliding windows now. Great looking boat
Quote from: ThePatriot on January 28, 2020, 04:20:57 PM
How hard would it be to extend the top support by 6"?
My understanding is that the hand rail and windows are the only thing that hold the top on.
Would it be that hard to add 6 inches aluminum to the top of the window frame and raise the whole top?
I would love to hear Defiance respond to this. i would be all over doing this type of retrofit.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe I asked someone at Defiance about this either at the show a few years ago or in person when I had my boat there and I believe they do it the way they do because if it's taller then it's not going to be as stable and will be like a sailboat catching the wind. To me, that's a trade off I'd take any day and would likely sell my skip top for a hardtop if this was possible, not too terribly difficult to do and also didn't break the bank while doing so. And if I could find a decent deal on a 21' SR HT.
Quote from: 85seahunter on January 28, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
I'm almost sold now that they have added the overhang. Just needs sliding windows now. Great looking boat
That or having the front windows/windshields fold outward. One of the things I do really enjoy about my skip top is that on a nice, sunny day I have the open air to keep me cool, especially when cruising. It's kind of hard to tell from the pictures but does the roof now extend to basically the back edge of the companion seats? It appears to do so in the picture and if so, that's a much better version from the first one where it doesn't even cover the driver/passenger seats all the way.
I can't imagine that an additional 4-6" in height would mess up stability.
They're doing it now with the Yellow Tail model.
Quote from: mustang65fbk on January 28, 2020, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: 85seahunter on January 28, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
I'm almost sold now that they have added the overhang. Just needs sliding windows now. Great looking boat
That or having the front windows/windshields fold outward. One of the things I do really enjoy about my skip top is that on a nice, sunny day I have the open air to keep me cool, especially when cruising. It's kind of hard to tell from the pictures but does the roof now extend to basically the back edge of the companion seats? It appears to do so in the picture and if so, that's a much better version from the first one where it doesn't even cover the driver/passenger seats all the way.
Yes looks to just cover the seats now which is nice. The first boat that's at Bucks in Sacramento the seats are exposed. Actually might not be too bad without sliders being such a small cabin and the back wide open. Then there's always the sunroofs lol. I'm in California so I need air
My 21 Ranger Skip top is going to need new canvas in the next few years. I wonder if these side panels and windows could mount up to the underside of a skip top since the structure is already there with the stainless supports.
Saw the Yellowtail in person this afternoon. Looks like a solid build, with the new pilothouse structure through-bolted to a standard Chaser deck mold ( in place of the regular windshield ). Show Special "as shown" pricing included 115 Honda w/prop, hydraulic steering, tabs, kicker bracket, Ray Element 9HV, both seats, and EZLoader single-axle trailer - for $49,995. Grey hull gelcoat looked different - but good.
More Seattle Boat Show pics of YT. Enjoy.
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BTW, at the right is a 21HT showing what looks like a bulkhead reinforcing the HT. :anyone:
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I'm liking the painted hull, looks great.
I noticed that sort-of-a-bulkhead on the 21 hardtop, too. The only Defiance employee in the booth at that time didn't know anything about it. It could be the new setup for a glass full bulkhead/door that wasn't installed, or just a very sturdy reinforcement for the back of the standard hardtop. Either way, it looks like a far stronger reinforcement than the old stainless braces were, since it's one piece all the way to the floor on both sides. :anyone:
sorry for the sideways images.........
This setup definitely has more hardtop overhang than the one I saw in Sacramento. Nice
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Just to be clear, the 2 (sideways) pictures I posted above are NOT the back of the Yellowtail pilothouse, they are of the rear of the SeaRanger 21 hardtop, showing the reinforcing part, from the back of the hardtop to the cockpit sole, which I hadn't seen before.
Oh bummer
I thought there were two styles.
Back to hopping maybe there's a way to raise my hardtop by 4-6 inches
Hoping. Hate auto spell
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Does anyone know if the new top will fit a 17' Chaser? Sure would like to have one here in the pacNW. Also, does anyone know the weight of the new top?
I checked out a Force 18' while in Hawaii last week. They seem to be a great, small platform designed to fish the local Hawaiian waters. They have a similar "hardtop" option (different sloped windows but similar window design and size) that they sell for $3,000 and can be retrofitted to older boats. With all the Arimas out there in the West, I would think they could sell a lot of them if they were priced in the $3K range.
forcemarineinc.com
Quote from: Arimadrifter on January 30, 2020, 12:23:04 PM
Does anyone know if the new top will fit a 17' Chaser? Sure would like to have one here in the pacNW. Also, does anyone know the weight of the new top?
It's not a new top, it's a new model boat. As far as I know it's not something that can be retrofitted onto an older hull.
Quote from: ohmytodd on January 30, 2020, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: Arimadrifter on January 30, 2020, 12:23:04 PM
Does anyone know if the new top will fit a 17' Chaser? Sure would like to have one here in the pacNW. Also, does anyone know the weight of the new top?
It's not a new top, it's a new model boat. As far as I know it's not something that can be retrofitted onto an older hull.
That is incorrect. If you look on the first page of this post you'll see the reply from Defiance saying... "I don't get on here very often but happened to visit and check the site today. I will try to do better about keeping you guys up to date better than I have in the past. With three boat brands and a Boat Dealership that I am running I do not have as much time to visit with you guys as I would like and Don spends even less time on the computer than I do. But I will try to do better. In answer to this question... Yes. We will offer this as a retrofit for "upgrade aficionados" once we get everything dialed in well with the new boats. It is about a $2500 upgrade but that includes a deduct for no windshield, or canvas and drop curtain that is included in our "New Boat Pricing". So it will be more for buying after the fact and installing on a current boat. I am guessing it will probably be close to $5,000 to buy the top section for add on after the fact. Don't hold me to that, I just don't want guys getting their hopes up about a $2,500 upgrade because it will be substantially more than that if it is bought aftermarket."
Yes, I did see his response. I think I've read thru the entire post and haven't seen anything on which sea chaser models it will fit. I'm no expert on the similarities and differences between the 17' and the 19'er, but I thought they were close to identical except for the 19'er has two additional feet of deck space.
Just curious if it would fit the 17'er and what the cost would be.
The impression I got from Defiance's post on here, and I could be very wrong about this, is that it will work with a 19' SC. That being said, I'd have to assume it would work with similarly sized boats like a 17' SC, 21' SR and whatever is the same cockpit size as a 19' SC. I'm assuming a 17' SC and 21' SR non HT would be the same size cockpit area/windows/windshields as a 19' SC? If not, I'm sure Defiance could make a slightly different size.
From first looks, I'll take the original config anyday over that. Appears that if you have a regular body form you will be looking up and out the glass as it is higher off the seat bottom level than the original..or you will have the seat jacked way up and doing touchy toes on the deck. I like visibility. Plus in that config the boat will have more windage, higher cg and be more subject to stress at the anchor points. That 'in trend' forward slant windshield is for double decker commercial boats not low to the wave sport boats. How many sport owners run in the pitch black for any period of time where they need the benefit of a less reflective windshield!! I love the orig back slanting cockpit mr Arima designed and if/when I take a big one over the bow it will put less stress on my windshield from blowing in. have had that happen on another boat.
I am 6'1 and have a 21 ranger. Its my first Arima. It didn't take long for me to never notice the lower ceiling. Now its automatic to stoop and I don't even realize I am stooping or feel constarined.. And I wear a cap so I can't see up. I much prefer the low squat config of the origin Arima as it looks right for the boat design.
Oh and no sliding windows and tee-top tells me this config was made for show to newbies and not for practicality. My 2 cents worth.
The forward slant gives you a nice roomy cockpit. It allows the top to extend further forward. Like a baseball cap, it keeps the sun out of your eyes. Visibility is much less painful in the bright sunshine. If you are mounting electronics, then you can mount them further forward. What's not to like ?
I just drove by today, and the police/rescue boats in Sunset Aquatic Marina have new forward slanting pilot houses....They look a little like the new Arima.
Quote from: Tesoro on January 30, 2020, 07:45:41 PM
From first looks, I'll take the original config anyday over that. Appears that if you have a regular body form you will be looking up and out the glass as it is higher off the seat bottom level than the original..or you will have the seat jacked way up and doing touchy toes on the deck. I like visibility. Plus in that config the boat will have more windage, higher cg and be more subject to stress at the anchor points. That 'in trend' forward slant windshield is for double decker commercial boats not low to the wave sport boats. How many sport owners run in the pitch black for any period of time where they need the benefit of a less reflective windshield!! I love the orig back slanting cockpit mr Arima designed and if/when I take a big one over the bow it will put less stress on my windshield from blowing in. have had that happen on another boat.
I am 6'1 and have a 21 ranger. Its my first Arima. It didn't take long for me to never notice the lower ceiling. Now its automatic to stoop and I don't even realize I am stooping or feel constarined.. And I wear a cap so I can't see up. I much prefer the low squat config of the origin Arima as it looks right for the boat design.
Oh and no sliding windows and tee-top tells me this config was made for show to newbies and not for practicality. My 2 cents worth.
Most pilothouse boats have the windshields slating forward and not rearward, I'm thinking there's a reason for this. Probably the glare, like others have said, more headroom and more depth in the cockpit area. The slanting back windshields give you less room and height as opposed to the forward slanting windshields. I'm 6'2" and had a 2000 21' SR HT, after trying to drive it a handful of times and continually smacking my head on the hardtop, that was all it took for me to sell it and enjoy my 21' SR ST. It was a night and day difference, especially when you're cruising in the boat as I always stand when cruising. When I'm trolling or fishing I'm more 50/50 between sitting and standing so it's not as big of a deal but to me, having to slouch over at least 75% of the time was definitely a deal breaker. If they offer something like this for my skip top, I'd consider it, depending on the price, turn around time for installation and a few other things. I love the hardtop, with the exception of the restricted height under the hardtop. And I love the skip top, except having to look through the plastic curtains when it's cold outside. I think this would solve both problems and I'm sure they'd have a lot of interest as fishermen tend be more stout than ordinary persons. Things like catching more wind or not having as fast of a top speed wouldn't be an issue for me at all as Arima's aren't built for speed.
Yeah I can totally understand the draw if one likes to stand driving. No way I can do that in mine. To solve that I put in some super comfy seats and flip up/down footrests under the dash so I drive sitting on my arse looking thru the center of the windshield and side glass. My Arima is my first exclusively sit down to drive boat I have owned. My longest day run fishing last summer was 104 miles and I felt fine at the end of the day.
Do a 21ft pilot house search and you will find that nearly all top brand, naval architect designed, smaller fishing (not special purpose) boats are designed with a conventional cabin/windshield 'pilothouse' config. Forward sloping windshields in boats is not a new concept. I believe the reason the small boats like ours have conventional rear slope designs is because they have average flared lower bows so when taking a medium wave head on it will slide the water up and over and to the side with less force on the windshield.
Now if you have a big flared high bow then your windshield is normally protected from these kind of waves and the front slope design is much stronger and glass is protected for a wave falling more on the top of the cockpit. You will see more smaller aluminum pilothouses with the forward slope windshield because the glass can be held in more securely with this construction.
I can attest to the waves washing right over the top with the low cabin in my arima cause I have done it but I can give one word of advise..dont forget to put on your t-top panels like I didnt do once!! That was a sobering experience!
I was referring to extra windage when the wind is on your beam. The other advantage to the forward slope other than reduced glare is that the top cap acts as a rain shield in light rain which is nice for the pnw. I use rainex on my glass and really works well and barely use my wipers, which are not the greatest.
There is no debate that the front slant 'mini commercial' look is popular. But my obs is they only 'look cool' when they are proportional to the boat. The Arima protoype cabin looks too out of proportion to me for the size/shape of that hull. But thats just my opinion. I also love cats.
Quote from: Croaker Stroker on January 30, 2020, 08:14:33 PM
The forward slant gives you a nice roomy cockpit. It allows the top to extend further forward. Like a baseball cap, it keeps the sun out of your eyes. Visibility is much less painful in the bright sunshine. If you are mounting electronics, then you can mount them further forward. What's not to like ?
I just drove by today, and the police/rescue boats in Sunset Aquatic Marina have new forward slanting pilot houses....They look a little like the new Arima.
Farallon 2300 super nice boats, my uncle has one and they are like tanks.
I'll take back what I said about most pilothouse boats having the windshields slanting forward as it seems it's really more 50/50. The aluminum boats like North River, Wooldridge and so on seem to like the front slanting windows while the fiberglass boats like Grady White, Parker and so on like the windshield slanting backward. To be honest, I like the forward slant look better and I think your dislike for it on the Arima is partly because it's only on a 19' boat so it looks somewhat disproportionately tall, because it's aimed for taller customers, compared to the shorter length of the boat itself and the roof isn't very long. I think the forward slanting windshields on a 21' SR look awesome and would look great on the yellowtail if the top was longer and especially if it was on a longer boat overall.
Yup agree. Needs to be on a 21. That boat in the pics is out of the water so when The squat arima is in the water it will make the top appear even larger proportionately, Might have some u-boat sightings off the coast!
A few more pictures...
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/bremerton-2020-arima-19-yellowtail/7082392179.html
The Arima Sea Chaser YT will be at the Fred Hall show this weekend in Long Beach, CA.
I would bite on a pilot house center console Arima. I'm sure it wouldn't work on a 8' beam, but might work on the legend hull.
Dam fine looking ...
Arima at Fred Hall.
Fast forward to 30 min mark.
https://youtu.be/MBt5EdwsVVE
Any more info/movement on this new top retrofit kit for a SR 21???
Quote from: Boatboy44 on March 09, 2020, 08:55:16 AM
Any more info/movement on this new top retrofit kit for a SR 21???
Bo noted that they are considering one for the 21. Your best bet would be to send an email to Bo directly and offer to put a down payment for one.
Who is Bo? Contact info?
Bo is the Owner of Arima. He is a member here, but he does not often check-in.
http://www.arimaowners.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5039
Croaker; He's just a "fry". What does he know? Haha
Yat
Quote from: ThePatriot on December 12, 2019, 03:47:46 PM
I would totally replace my hardtop with that one.
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I have this boat. It's great! Headroom is 6' 4"
I wouldn't mind the roof a bit longer but with the rear canvas down there's plenty of room to keep every one dry. Pedestal drivers seat/storage box passenger seat with cushion behind. 3 people can sit inside comfortably.
Quote from: Jakemetz on March 27, 2020, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: ThePatriot on December 12, 2019, 03:47:46 PM
I would totally replace my hardtop with that one.
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I have this boat. It's great! Headroom is 6' 4"
I wouldn't mind the roof a bit longer but with the rear canvas down there's plenty of room to keep every one dry. Pedestal drivers seat/storage box passenger seat with cushion behind. 3 people can sit inside comfortably.
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Quote from: davidsea on January 29, 2020, 03:23:18 PM
I noticed that sort-of-a-bulkhead on the 21 hardtop, too. The only Defiance employee in the booth at that time didn't know anything about it. It could be the new setup for a glass full bulkhead/door that wasn't installed, or just a very sturdy reinforcement for the back of the standard hardtop. Either way, it looks like a far stronger reinforcement than the old stainless braces were, since it's one piece all the way to the floor on both sides. :anyone:
sorry for the sideways images.........
The rear bulkheads on the 19 & 21 SR HT have been in place at least a few years now. You can see them in pics on there Facebook page but not their website.
I thought I saw/read somewhere the deadrise on this hull was 20 degrees. Anyone able to confirm that?
I thought I saw/read somewhere the deadrise on this hull was 20 degrees. Anyone able to confirm that?
Posted by: Koopa253
« on: April 15, 2020, 07:26:35 PM »
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Nope, from the deck down, same hull as standard Arima 19's.
Hull is the same in 19 SR , SC and YT- and I believe 20 degrees dead rise is correct.
I haven't measured it- just recall that info being stated.
I thought I recall the deadrise being 14 degrees?
I guess I was not dreaming. Although I'm sure it's not correct. In the following link, under measurements, its says "Deadrise At Transom 20deg"
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2020-arima-seachaser-19-yellowtail--7381816/
Quote from: Koopa253 on April 22, 2020, 04:46:34 PM
I guess I was not dreaming. Although I'm sure it's not correct. In the following link, under measurements, its says "Deadrise At Transom 20deg"
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2020-arima-seachaser-19-yellowtail--7381816/
It also says the beam it 8.5 so we know the information listed there is not correct.
20 degrees? 14 degrees? Sorry guys. Sea Legend is 12 degrees. What? You don't believe your uncle Yat? Haha Okay then, try this: https://arimaboats.com/sea-legend-22/ Click-on "specs". Factory shows the Sea Legend at 12 degrees.
Yat
I have a cheap plastic angle measurement tool. Handy to have when you need it. :wink:
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Quote from: Defiance on December 12, 2019, 04:27:20 PM
I don't get on here very often but happened to visit and check the site today. I will try to do better about keeping you guys up to date better than I have in the past. With three boat brands and a Boat Dealership that I am running I do not have as much time to visit with you guys as I would like and Don spends even less time on the computer than I do. But I will try to do better. In answer to this question... Yes. We will offer this as a retrofit for "upgrade aficionados" once we get everything dialed in well with the new boats. It is about a $2500 upgrade but that includes a deduct for no windshield, or canvas and drop curtain that is included in our "New Boat Pricing". So it will be more for buying after the fact and installing on a current boat. I am guessing it will probably be close to $5,000 to buy the top section for add on after the fact. Don't hold me to that, I just don't want guys getting their hopes up about a $2,500 upgrade because it will be substantially more than that if it is bought aftermarket.
Is this still in the works? I understand maybe not this summer just wondering if it will be a future upgrade option still.