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Title: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on May 09, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
Hi Guys,
Ok so I hate the bracket and bar system that came with my boat for connecting the kicker to the main motor.  I am considering some sort of remote and Tom's Outboard recommended the Panther Remote Steering system.  I have throttle control in the helm.  Does anybody have ideas or advice on the Panther system.  I know the TR1 is the best but I already have way more money into the boat than I ever thought I would spend in my life.  Worth every penny and we love it and really love the fishing etc.

Thank you in advance for any replies.
Steve
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Salmon King on May 09, 2014, 04:40:23 PM
Panther owners I have heard from are generally very happy.
They used to have a problem with one of their models allowing water to get into the motor but they have redesigned the unit and folks a happy with the new models now.
I would like to have one some day...but that day is FAR off in the distance for me.
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Danno on May 09, 2014, 05:00:46 PM
Just spent another day on the Columbia on SF's 19 SC. His panther T4 works great.
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: StreamFixer on May 09, 2014, 06:54:05 PM
 :yeahthat:

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: boomerick on May 13, 2014, 09:06:52 AM
I feel that the Panther remote on my Yamaha 8 kicker is one of the best things I have done with my boat.  Easy to use and so far (2 years) very dependable.
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: BruceL2_Fish on May 13, 2014, 09:46:56 AM
I have the powerTran setup and it works really nice as well

Bruce
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: fishing eagle on May 20, 2014, 03:16:48 PM
I love my Panther T-4. Just make sure you purchase the stainless steel model.
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Kyle on May 20, 2014, 10:52:10 PM
Does anyone have any experience with the tr1's out on the ocean? Do they hold heading in wind and rough conditions?
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on May 21, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
I ordered the T-4 Panther.  I will be installed on Tuesday after the holiday and yes I got the Saltwater Model.  Thank you for all the help in deciding.  This site is great and for a guy who has only owned duck boats his whole life it really helps as this is a whole different game
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Salmon King on May 21, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
Quote from: Sprigg65 on May 21, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
I ordered the T-4 Panther.  I will be installed on Tuesday after the holiday and yes I got the Saltwater Model.  Thank you for all the help in deciding.  This site is great and for a guy who has only owned duck boats his whole life it really helps as this is a whole different game

Sprigg..
Where did you get it from and if you don't mind...what were the damages?
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on May 28, 2014, 08:16:29 AM
Well I had an appointment made 2 weeks ago at Tom's outboard to have it installed Tuesday and as usual they dropped the ball.  Did not order the parts and did not call me and did not know what it was they were doing even though it was right there on there calendar.  Everytime!  No call backs, no communication.  5 times, I have been promised a call back there by them and 5 times I have had to call multiple times to talk to anyone and still never any answers.  But, they are really sorry.  I will look up the price for you
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: StreamFixer on May 28, 2014, 09:05:52 AM
With that track record, I would be looking for a different service facility....

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Salmon King on May 28, 2014, 09:09:56 AM
YOU sir are a much more forgiving customer than I!
I would have been a lost customer after the 2nd time!
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on May 28, 2014, 10:36:33 AM
There really is no one else down here.  Verles in Shelton is always 3 to 4 weeks out no matter what.  Its crazy.  You think people would open at 5 or 6 AM to make more money rather than just run a standard 9 to 5 shift.  I own my own business and if it were me, I would hire a night crew for this time of year and look to cash in, but that's just a greedy business owner with some work ethic talking  :jester:
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: StreamFixer on May 28, 2014, 11:02:13 AM
I have no dogs in this fight.  That being said, Verles has good things being said on this board. 

Being a month out sucks, but still better than only 2 weeks and when arriving the shop has no idea who you are or why you are there so let's reschedule.

Sounds like an opportunity for a new, service oriented, business in the Olympia area.

STreamFixer
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on May 28, 2014, 12:47:13 PM
Next time I will just plan it for the off season and use Verhls.  I was planning on getting this until Deanna said, can't we get something so I don't have to steer the boat all day and I can fish too!  Ha, yes we sure can!
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: StreamFixer on May 28, 2014, 12:56:46 PM
I think you will like your T-4.  I know I like mine (thank you Diablo).  However, don't think you will not be attentively steering.  This is not a set and forget system.  You would need the TR-1 (about $3K or more for that).  Just one that allows you to move around the boat and still have steering control of the kicker.

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on May 28, 2014, 02:40:15 PM
Yes, I know.  I just didn't think we needed the auto pilot.  this will be great just to be able to not have that darn connecting rod bar to always worry about and she can steer the boat with the remote while and watch the fish finder etc.   They are supposed to have it done this afternoon.  So, we shall see.

Steve
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Peddler on May 28, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
Alternatives to Verles and Tom's include; Tangelwild Marine at Hawks Prairie, and Puget Marina on Johnson Point.  I've had work done by both, and have no complaints with either.  Not sure how-far out the get booked.  They'd be worth a call, in my opinion.

There's a mobile guy too, Gull Harbor Yacht Service.  I used him for a diesel heater install, and I believe he's done quite a bit for GregE too.
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: GregE on May 28, 2014, 04:49:35 PM
 :yeahthat:

DAt be true!!   :wink:   
Tim Lauer at Gull Harbor can be tough to get ahold of but given lead time  360 349 3935  ...  Puget Marine has Kodak doing some top rail mount touch up.  Charlie is the shop foreman there  360 491 7388.

Tom's does good work on my outboards  360 754 3882.  They have failed to call and discuss the findings with me several times though.
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Steve on May 28, 2014, 08:09:47 PM
Verles flat out lied to me when I was looking to buy my boat. I have nothing good to say about them period.
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on June 03, 2014, 08:43:42 AM
I didn't know Puget Marina did that kind of work.  Heck, I can walk to there from my house. 

Thank you guys.

By the way, we have only tested and not fished with the T4 yet, but from what we have done so far, I really think it is going to be just what we wanted.  I wish it did not stick out so far to the side.  It would be so easy to catch that on a dock post or something.  I guess I should have paid the extra $$$ for the T5 which mounts vertical. 
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Chuck Jones on June 03, 2014, 09:53:02 AM
I can tell you from experience that having it stick out like that will eventually get it dinged.  It's difficult enough with one that sits vertical when the wind is blowing you up against the dock and your're trying to pull away.  I can imagine how difficult it might be with the motor sticking out the side....or did I read this wrong?
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on June 03, 2014, 10:09:01 AM
Its the T4 unit in the black plastic box that sticks out from the kicker motor.  It does not stick out past the edge of the boat, but its close.  I have a couple of Snaps for the camp cover right there, I was thinking about trying to make something out of a small bumper that just snaps on to protect it.

Steve
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: amazing grace on June 04, 2014, 09:16:58 PM
Sounds like a good set up. what was the price for the T4 vs the T5?
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: StreamFixer on June 05, 2014, 06:52:08 AM
You can find the prices, where to buy, and other information here AG

http://www.marinetechproducts.com/pages/PantherHOME

StreamFixer
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Markshoreline on June 05, 2014, 08:04:52 PM
I must be too dumb to find pricing there....
Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Chuck Jones on June 05, 2014, 08:18:25 PM
Here's a suggestion for researching the T4:

Open Google search engine.

Enter search Criteria...."Panther T4 outboard bracket"

The following information comes back......


Panther Electro Steer
Panther Electro Steer

Free yourself from that ball n chain known as your auxiliary motor. Simply install , and you'll enjoy remote steering capabilities from anywhere in ... 

List price: $434.99

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Panther™ Electro Steer T4
Pantherâ„¢ Electro Steer T4

Through the tilt tube Electro Steer, 24' cable allows you to steer your kicker motor from anywhere in the boat Mounts to your kicker motor in minutes ... 

List price: $535.99

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$492.11

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Title: Re: Kicker Steering
Post by: Sprigg65 on June 06, 2014, 07:53:44 AM
Mine was 535.00 for the unit and 225.oo for the wireless remote.  Had it out testing but not fishing yet.  It seems like it is going to be awesome.  If I had it to do over again, I would consider getting the T5 instead due to the fact it does not "stick out" as far to the side.  I am really worried I am going to hit on a dock post etc.  It looks like the T5 mounts vertical.  The T4 looks a little funky on the boat but, it is going to be great to control that motor from the wireless remote. 

Steve